R32 Gts-4

[rollin_on_18_strong]

Skyline newbie here again, i saw a r32 gts-4 for sale today and it got my attention. i understand that they are rb20 powered and all wheel drive. i would like to know how many parts they share with the GTR or are they literally a 4wd GTST?

[32line]

they are just a 4wd gtst, and anyone who calls it a 'mini godzilla' is a knob.

Edited August 24, 2007 by 32line

[SECURITY]

all the running gear is the same as the GTR as far as i know.

just the motor/gearbox is rb20 spec.

definitely not a 'mini godzilla' though.

[Kozeyekan]

Well, as a current owner of one, I thought I'd comment:

The R32 GTS-4 is a great machine, but it's a compromise.

It has the GTR suspension, AWD, and can be modded to use the same calipers (from what I understand anyway)

apart from that it's really a GTS-T.

I chose a GTS-4 due to the fact that I love AWD, but didn't want the upkeep of a GTR.

You can easily install a 2WD switch, but the added weight of the AWD system mean it will not be as fast on the quarter mile as a GTS-T, but it'll kill it in the twisties.

The GTR will naturally own the gts-4, but then again, it's double the price.

[Rhade_MGF]

I think the Pulsar GTiR is known as the "mini GTR"

[adam-__-]

all the running gear is the same as the GTR as far as i know.

just the motor/gearbox is rb20 spec.

definitely not a 'mini godzilla' though.

Yeah I think the GTS-4's gearbox has shorter gears for better acceleration. I think GTR owners who are into drag racing often put the GTS-4 boxes in because they're better suited to quarter mile.

[blind_elk]

No, the DIFFS are shorter (4.375 vs GT-R's 4.111)

I call it a "baby Godzilla" - all that is missing is 600cc and a turbo! Many of the mechanicals are interchangeable with the GT-R.

But with a RB25DET ... now that's another story!

[adam-__-]

Oh okay. I thought I it was the gearbox.

[rollin_on_18_strong]

yeah this is what i was thinking , half the price of a gtr, a bit lighter, understated styling and lower geared. chuck in a boosted 25 and we're laughing

[adam-__-]

Is it hard to find a Stagea engine? Never see them forsale.

[TTT]

yeah this is what i was thinking , half the price of a gtr, a bit lighter, understated styling and lower geared. chuck in a boosted 25 and we're laughing

I guess 1450kg is a "bit" lighter than the GTR's 1460kg

I've had one.

unless it has something other than an RB20 in it, don't bother.

just not enough torque to do anything right.

I knew that before buying it and had planned to build an RB30/25 for it..

things changed, I sold it.

Stag engines aren't that easy to come by.

No you can't just use an RB25 out of any R33/34 skyline.

You can use an RB26 no worries.

but then after you've spent minimum $4K for engine and another $2K for the install and getting it running, you now have a car that is the same price as a GTR of the same vintage would have been and still NO GTR.

[rollin_on_18_strong]

yeah i guess your right, im just trying to think outside the box. , i have seen a few stagea cuts forsale latley. im very suprised that they are similar weight to the gtr , they are very heavy for a small car. to heavy for a twenty for sure

[r32line]

i have seen a few stagea cuts forsale latley. im very suprised that they are similar weight to the gtr , they are very heavy for a small car.

Are you from America? How can you call a Stagea a "small car"

Anyway, you also mentioned looking for a Stagea engine..... unless I am mistaken they have an rb25det just like an r33 gts-t? What is the difference?

[krush]

i think hes talking about the gts4 being heavy for a small car.

the stageas are 4wd drive i think? the rb25 in them would have the front drive shafts/sump that would suit the gts4s. an rb25 from an r33 would need a modified sump and bits to go with it. that what i *think* at least.

i own a gts4, also. good car. great in the wet. sure not the quickest, but like the dude up top said its a compromise. even then, its fine to drive daily and unless youre really looking to have a race every set of lights does it really matter being that much slower? i like my 4wd.

[MADGT4]

Anyway, you also mentioned looking for a Stagea engine..... unless I am mistaken they have an rb25det just like an r33 gts-t? What is the difference?

Stagea 4WD

Engine swap

Thought that was pretty simple to understand?

Either way i love my GTS4 and dont plan on doing an RB25 or 26 swap at all... Too in love with my RB20!

Should be making about 250-260rwkw soon and im really looking forward to seeing what the car can do then!

[blind_elk]

The sumps are different - obviously. I think the Stagea uses 8mm studs to locate / secure the sump, GTSt uses only 6mm studs. So, the sumps aren't simply interchangeable.

[SECURITY]

Stagea 4WD

Engine swap

Thought that was pretty simple to understand?

Either way i love my GTS4 and dont plan on doing an RB25 or 26 swap at all... Too in love with my RB20!

Should be making about 250-260rwkw soon and im really looking forward to seeing what the car can do then!

ill tell you right now what it'll do. it'll munch right through your gearbox if its standard.

[rollin_on_18_strong]

ill tell you right now what it'll do. it'll munch right through your gearbox if its standard.

yeah we've all seen those pictures

[TTT]

ill tell you right now what it'll do. it'll munch right through your gearbox if its standard.

How many R32 GTS4 gearboxes have you broken?

RIPZ in NZ have these cars in the 10's using rb30/25 and stock gearbox and diffs.

that requires ALOT more power than 260rwkw.

and alot more torque than 4 rb20's put together.

they are not like a GTST rb20 gearbox.

[blind_elk]

How many R32 GTS4 gearboxes have you broken?

Zero, zip, zilch, nada.

Not a one.