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FineLine Grand Master

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Lazy bastard is the latest victim to fall under the spell of magic Mick. His 33 went on the rollers today and the magician found another 40 rwkw and fats more midrange with less fuel and far lower knock levels.

We took an evening run to church when it was done and !FAAAARK, It hauls arse. Noticeable quicker than prior.

Lazy-Bastard Grand Master

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Damn straight!

I am one happy camper. Previously tuned to 226rwkw (not by Mick) and I was seeing some pretty nasty knock levels. Mick pulled 263rwkw out of it and with a nicer tune as well.

The power curve is now much more linear and the knock levels are WAY down compared to before and at a very acceptable level. It's a different car to drive in the low to mid-range.

A big vote here for Signature Performance!

edit: the red line is the original tune, blue is the new one

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Col-GTSX Grand Master

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Yeah, but Shootout Mode????

I was gonna say Dave thats pretty standard stuff for people to get final power readings...

Like shootout mode is bragging rights, all dyno days are generally done in shootout mode...

But then I noticed looking at the sheet Warrick has posted, there is not airtemp, intaketemp, no humidity, no data which affects the overall figure???

So I would question the result, yes!!!

Like motec correction on Richards dyno, all dynos take into account air temps and so forth... What tha!!!

Im sure that there was an improvement which Warrick has already said so obviouslly worth the time on the dyno...

Nothing measurespower like "by the seat of his pants" feeling and "fear", if your scared of your car then you must have enough power... :)

At the end of the day Mick was able to reduce his knock levels and increase power, so its a vast improvement reguardless of the rwkw its a winner anyway...

Rhinorebel Grand Master

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Just wondering if Shootout Mode, as used in Autosalon and other "shows" is as variable and able to be "tweaked" to satisfy the customer as I have heard. I want to get my readings on Allstar's dyno and then run it on another dyno to compare, as I have been told that Richo's dyno is very conservative and that I would see a higher number on most other dynos.

GTRgeoff Grand Master

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Shootout uses different ramp rates so can effect the reading, but it doesn't say which mode, so I assume if Mick just keeps it right as it is the only comparison is his dyno.

I note the boost level is up as well.

Regardless, nice to know you are happy with it.

Col-GTSX Grand Master

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Yeah thats right Geoff, does not matter how acurate the final figure is, the final power run is much nicer than the original one...

Both done on the same dyno on the same day, so thats the result...

So there in it self marks an improvement, plus as I said nothing beats "the feeling in the seat of your pants"... :)

But short answer for Dave is yes, ramp rates can help bump up the figure, also having a higher intake temp and outside air temp will also affect the correction before a power figure is output.

So not having any data in those areas will affect the final output figure, however that said Im sure Mick never inteded the printout to become a pin up for power, it was more likelly used just to measure the improvement from start to finish of the tune... As this is really what dynos are made for!!!

FineLine Grand Master

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Shootout uses different ramp rates so can effect the reading, but it doesn't say which mode, so I assume if Mick just keeps it right as it is the only comparison is his dyno.

I note the boost level is up as well.

Regardless, nice to know you are happy with it.

Bingo Geoff. Both of those readings were taken off the same mode. I can not believe the negativity i am reading here. We finally get a tuner that really does know his shit and the proof is there in black and white.

This car was previously tuned by a well known tuner in Bris and has never made more than around 220rwkw (IN SHOOTOUT MODE) I have driven Warwicks car prior to this tune and believe me it farkin hammers compared to before. The slight boost increase you see is a direct result of the tune. The boost controller was not touched despite Warwick requesting Mick do so. Mick talked him out of it when he showed him what was available simply by getting the numbers correct.

Hate away peeps, We'll just keep getting good tunes and enjoying our cars all the more for it.

P>S> All numbers are available to anyone wanting to see them. ( cept you col) Feel free to pm me your email addy if you wish to view them.

shanef Grand Master

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its doesnt really matter if the dyno isnt setup like others in brsiabne, the car was dyno'd before the tuning was done, and then again after it was done. So i dont see what the whinging is about

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its doesnt really matter if the dyno isnt setup like others in brsiabne, the car was dyno'd before the tuning was done, and then again after it was done. So i dont see what the whinging is about
however that said Im sure Mick never inteded the printout to become a pin up for power, it was more likelly used just to measure the improvement from start to finish of the tune... As this is really what dynos are made for!!!

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Im sure that there was an improvement which Warrick has already said so obviouslly worth the time on the dyno...

Nothing measures power like "by the seat of his pants" feeling and "fear", if your scared of your car then you must have enough power... :)

At the end of the day Mick was able to reduce his knock levels and increase power, so its a vast improvement reguardless of the rwkw its a winner anyway...

Ya, I dont understand the whinging either...?

FineLine Grand Master

FineLine

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But then I noticed looking at the sheet Warrick has posted, there is not airtemp, intaketemp, no humidity, no data which affects the overall figure???

So I would question the result, yes!!!

Like motec correction on Richards dyno, all dynos take into account air temps and so forth... What tha!!!

yes indeed i jump to a conclusion when i read shit like that. You are questioning the integrity of

A. Myself

B. Warwick

C. The tuner

D. All 3.

Which one is it Col??

Col-GTSX Grand Master

Col-GTSX

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yes indeed i jump to a conclusion when i read shit like that. You are questioning the integrity of

A. Myself

B. Warwick

C. The tuner

D. All 3.

Which one is it Col??

No, i questioned the final power figure as without this information it cannot be taken as gospel.

As Dave was asking about how accurate shootout mode is I was just stating that the normal info is missing so no one really knows in this case.

But once again Ill say it, im sure Mick never thoguht this would be a pin up for power, its just a tuning aid.

But as stated its not about the final figure, as who really cares. Its all about how much better it is now then before.

Power figures are like whos got the biggest willy, Im all for happiness and it seems Warrick is happy and after seeing the improvement and less knock, what not to be happy about.

BTW> How can I be questioning your or warricks integrity??? Im confused, I think you should read it all again. I have not questioned either of you!

As for Mick, I know him well and Id never question his, and he knows me and would probablly think the same.

u edited ur post col...i swear! :)

Nope swear to god, the old system is back in pact now. So if a post is edited then it says below the post something like;

"This post was edited 1:05am on 16th August 2007 by Col-GTSX" Something like that, you know what it looks like...

shanef Grand Master

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Nope swear togod, the old system is back in pact now. So if a post is edited then it says below the post something like;

"This post was edited 1:05am on 16th August 2007 by Col-GTSX" Something like that, you know what it looks like...

only if u have it turned on :)

Col-GTSX Grand Master

Col-GTSX

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It was working that way this morning, admin turned it on for everyone the other day to help with complaints of editing... Weird...

Must have decided to turn it off again...??

Edit: Yeah Noel, just do us a favour and re-read the posts everyone else seems to have understood it.

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Hey guys, lets stick to the fact that Mick now has a dyno and is doing good things with it.

I am as much if not more interested in the drivers feel of how the car now runs. Out of corner punch, throttle response etc are the things that make a great tune. These things are much harder to achieve than a final figure and have a lot more meaning to the driving experience and lap times etc.

Mick takes a lot of pride in his work and everyone who has had their car tuned so far and has posted is very happy with the results.

As FineLine said, lets not get caught up in the crap of dyno sheets and shoot out mode etc. Those arguements are as old as Moses.

I may sound biased as my car is currently strapped to his dyno. My results will be seen on the circuit at the Oct 5 track day!!

Paul

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