Stock Gtr 32

[Adz2332]

Well im looking at a stock GTR 32 for 17k

Its never been dynoed but its stock everything. Except exhaust.

What Kws would it be making roughly?

And when i buy i dont wanna upgrade much so all i plan on doing is

Power Fc + controller

Fuel Pump

Boost Controller

I hope to get away with all that only costing $2000 to buy fit and tune.

What would my figure be roughly then?

Any thing i should upgrade to?

[TTT]

about 180rwkw

how much boost do you plan to run once tuned with pfc, ebc and fuel pump?

then someone can tell you what you will probably make.

I'd "guess" with 14psi on stock turbo's, PFC and fuel pump, tuned, it will be about 230rwkw or round about.

and good for mid to low 12's?

Having said that, 14psi on stock R32 turbo's in on burrowed time.

Do this at your own risk.

[Adz2332]

about 180rwkw

how much boost do you plan to run once tuned with pfc, ebc and fuel pump?

then someone can tell you what you will probably make.

I'd "guess" with 14psi on stock turbo's, PFC and fuel pump, tuned, it will be about 230rwkw or round about.

and good for mid to low 12's?

Having said that, 14psi on stock R32 turbo's in on burrowed time.

Do this at your own risk.

i was told itll hold up to 300kws the engine internals

[Nismo_God]

u wont get great power without dump pipe, decent exhaust. from what i have discovered stock turbos range, but generally ppl says dont boost over 1 bar....

fuel pump prob wont need touching if u are only going to do those mods, better spent on dump pipes

[Adz2332]

u wont get great power without dump pipe, decent exhaust. from what i have discovered stock turbos range, but generally ppl says dont boost over 1 bar....

fuel pump prob wont need touching if u are only going to do those mods, better spent on dump pipes

ok cheers might do that to.. whats that worth to do??

[TTT]

I love the general broad comments.

Yes.. in general the RB26 internals are good for that sort of power.

my comment of "Having said that, 14psi on stock R32 turbo's in on burrowed time" is in reference to the stock Ceramic wheeled turbo's bolted to the side of the rb26.

if they blow, you are up for a "MINIMUM" pair of turbo's. new, used or hiflowed or whatever.

I don't see that being less than $1500 for the parts, then labour to fit it all... no offence, you just don't come across as the type of person who can do this task.

I say minimum, as it's seems to be a 50/50 chance of blowing the engine when you blow a stock turbo on these cars.

do a search and you'll see a few threads about GTR's and rebuilds.

some people don't have any issues to the engine when a stock turbo blows and others lose compression on the 3 cylinders that the blown turbo is connected to..

a simple rb26 forged piston and rod pack is close to $2K

blah blah blah.. could be an expensive exercise for running that sort of boost on stockers..

if I were you, I'd try to stretch the budget to buy a GTR which has good compression and aftermarket turbo's or one tha't s been fully built

[djr81]

ok cheers might do that to.. whats that worth to do??

You need to be a bit careful with you terminology. The dump pipes bolt up against the turbo. They are bastards of things to get at and replacing them will provide little power gain on a stock car.

The front pipes which go from the dump pipe to the cat are easier to get at, but don't provide a big gain.

Importantly if the car has a cheap compliance cat this can be an issue. Try either a stock unit (very good) or a good aftermarket one.

The remainder of the exhaust can be bought relatively cheaply & is worthwhile - some for the power but mostly for the noise.

As had been said the fuel pump if you want to replace it will be mostly for insurance rather than performance.

Air filter (K&N) plus 14# boost + exhaust will run over 300rwhp on an R32 Gt-R. You can throw some cam gears at it for some more hp. After that you need to shop for bigger turbos.

[Adz2332]

I love the general broad comments.

Yes.. in general the RB26 internals are good for that sort of power.

my comment of "Having said that, 14psi on stock R32 turbo's in on burrowed time" is in reference to the stock Ceramic wheeled turbo's bolted to the side of the rb26.

if they blow, you are up for a "MINIMUM" pair of turbo's. new, used or hiflowed or whatever.

I don't see that being less than $1500 for the parts, then labour to fit it all... no offence, you just don't come across as the type of person who can do this task.

I say minimum, as it's seems to be a 50/50 chance of blowing the engine when you blow a stock turbo on these cars.

do a search and you'll see a few threads about GTR's and rebuilds.

some people don't have any issues to the engine when a stock turbo blows and others lose compression on the 3 cylinders that the blown turbo is connected to..

a simple rb26 forged piston and rod pack is close to $2K

blah blah blah.. could be an expensive exercise for running that sort of boost on stockers..

if I were you, I'd try to stretch the budget to buy a GTR which has good compression and aftermarket turbo's or one tha't s been fully built

that sounds good, find one that has new turbos, but honestly where are those cars. ive been searching awhile and in SA there has only been 4 gtrs around

[Adz2332]

You need to be a bit careful with you terminology. The dump pipes bolt up against the turbo. They are bastards of things to get at and replacing them will provide little power gain on a stock car.

The front pipes which go from the dump pipe to the cat are easier to get at, but don't provide a big gain.

Importantly if the car has a cheap compliance cat this can be an issue. Try either a stock unit (very good) or a good aftermarket one.

The remainder of the exhaust can be bought relatively cheaply & is worthwhile - some for the power but mostly for the noise.

As had been said the fuel pump if you want to replace it will be mostly for insurance rather than performance.

Air filter (K&N) plus 14# boost + exhaust will run over 300rwhp on an R32 Gt-R. You can throw some cam gears at it for some more hp. After that you need to shop for bigger turbos.

is that with or without the power fc?

[Adz2332]

I love the general broad comments.

Yes.. in general the RB26 internals are good for that sort of power.

my comment of "Having said that, 14psi on stock R32 turbo's in on burrowed time" is in reference to the stock Ceramic wheeled turbo's bolted to the side of the rb26.

if they blow, you are up for a "MINIMUM" pair of turbo's. new, used or hiflowed or whatever.

I don't see that being less than $1500 for the parts, then labour to fit it all... no offence, you just don't come across as the type of person who can do this task.

I say minimum, as it's seems to be a 50/50 chance of blowing the engine when you blow a stock turbo on these cars.

do a search and you'll see a few threads about GTR's and rebuilds.

some people don't have any issues to the engine when a stock turbo blows and others lose compression on the 3 cylinders that the blown turbo is connected to..

a simple rb26 forged piston and rod pack is close to $2K

blah blah blah.. could be an expensive exercise for running that sort of boost on stockers..

if I were you, I'd try to stretch the budget to buy a GTR which has good compression and aftermarket turbo's or one tha't s been fully built

the one im looking at has HKS GT-SS TURBOS (GT-25 BALL BEARING) and FULL 3.5 INCH TITANIUM EXHAUST.

Those turbos any good? they a ok up grade from the standered turbos? and is that what ur talking about when u say good aftermarket turbos?

thanks for ue advice by the way!

[djr81]

is that with or without the power fc?

Take your pick. The stock ecu can be remapped if you deem it necessary. The Power fc base tune can be cleaned up also. I used to run my old car on a power fc with the base tune in it. Works fine as does the stock ECU with the same settings.

At the end of the day the tune is more important than the ecu - get so it checked on the dyno.

Lastly don't listen to the full time harbingers of doom about the turbos. They are fine, just don't run them outside their envelope & don't abuse the car. Same as anything.

[Adz2332]

Take your pick. The stock ecu can be remapped if you deem it necessary. The Power fc base tune can be cleaned up also. I used to run my old car on a power fc with the base tune in it. Works fine as does the stock ECU with the same settings.

At the end of the day the tune is more important than the ecu - get so it checked on the dyno.

Lastly don't listen to the full time harbingers of doom about the turbos. They are fine, just don't run them outside their envelope & don't abuse the car. Same as anything.

thanks mate for the advice.. im pretty conservative driving my car! im just worried and loosing sleep bout buying a gtr i want it so bad but have heard some horror stories about them. and to make it worse i have a beautiful gtst that i kno is great that ill have to get rid of to get the gtr

[TTT]

yes..

gt-ss turbo's are a perfect street turbo from what all owners are saying.

300kw at the wheels is well within reach.

[Adz2332]

yes..

gt-ss turbo's are a perfect street turbo from what all owners are saying.

300kw at the wheels is well within reach.

oh excellent that makes me feel alot better and this car is clean as to...

also never been boosted... just hope they go as low as what im offering... and that the check at boostworxs is ok

[SLIPPERY]

I dont believe that the car has GT-SS turbos and HASNT been boosted

Whos trying to pedal such a lie?

Also, it doesnt matter whether the car has been boosted or not within reason. The motor is more than up to the task.

So long as the check at the workshop goes ok, then buy it if its what you really want

[djr81]

I dont believe that the car has GT-SS turbos and HASNT been boosted

Whos trying to pedal such a lie?

Also, it doesnt matter whether the car has been boosted or not within reason. The motor is more than up to the task.

So long as the check at the workshop goes ok, then buy it if its what you really want

Well said.

[Betz]

When I bought my GTR it was "stock, never boosted..."

yeah right

when you start to hunt for power with your car it soon becomes aparent that your "stock" GTR isnt realy very stock at all.

initial purchace will see you needing a full overhaul of the vehicle fluids and filters + a cam belt, budget around $1000 to have it done at a workshop and dialed in on the dyno.

stock GTR's make around 165awk, slightly more with an exaust.

I did the following:

Power FC $1000

cam gears $150

EBC (already fitted but budget for around $500)

Turbo timer (already fitted and not much point using one unless you take your car to the track, budget for around $200)

Gauges (already fitted but you will want these as the stock gauges are crap budget around $500 - $700)

Hi flow cat $400

Dyno time $500 minimum

Labor to fit all this stuff $1000 approx

and then there is all the problems they find like brittle hoses, leaking injectors and the like so make sure you have some cash spare for that.

result?

230awk @ .9bar (everything running at approx 80% capacity ie injectors and AFM's etc)

[TTT]

gt-ss - never been boosted.. classic.

[Adz2332]

gt-ss - never been boosted.. classic.

lol i thought that to but he had plans on doing that then the cash ran out. but it even runs stock air cleaner things not pods. evrything looks stock as.

[N1GTR]

Well im looking at a stock GTR 32 for 17k

Its never been dynoed but its stock everything. Except exhaust.

What Kws would it be making roughly?

And when i buy i dont wanna upgrade much so all i plan on doing is

Power Fc + controller

Fuel Pump

Boost Controller

I hope to get away with all that only costing $2000 to buy fit and tune.

What would my figure be roughly then?

Any thing i should upgrade to?

On a stockish GTR;

15psi

New ECU (choose your brand)

zorst

good tune

=260 odd rwkw (on mine 262 exact)

lol i thought that to but he had plans on doing that then the cash ran out. but it even runs stock air cleaner things not pods. evrything looks stock as.

The MINES R34 uses stock airboxes, its not stock