Mk V Golf R32 * 08 Lancer Evo X * 02/03 Boxster S * R34 Gtr Vspec

[BaysideBlue]

i'd say it'd be between the boxter and the evo. I'd personally go the evo as its good and practical for everyday with the option for more power if you want it. i'd imagine the boxter will be hard to extract more balls out of and hella expensive.

A good example 02/03 Boxster S can be had for around $70k in the used market which I think is a bargain consider they sold for +$130k when new.

[m3gtr]

I'd go the r32 or porche (so long as it's the S not the weaksauce 2.7 )

Put the "s" in the word you mis-spelt and you might be on the right track..plus, aside from the fact that the R32 is more than 15 to 17 years old, the Nissan doesnt, in the price range youre at, cut the proverbial mustard...the 33 and 34 included.

Forget the Nissan. Its pure folly if you buy an R34 only to look tough plus as has already been mentioned, is already getting long in the tooth.

Tough car ,yes, but such a negative social image. Youll be struggling to keep the police off you.

Have you thought of BMW?? With your budget, you may be within reach of a second hand V10 M5 and at the very least an E46 M3 with SMG gearbox.

What you may not know is that the DSG is really BMW technology in wolves' clothing. I'd stump up for a BMW ANYDAY over a Volkswagen no matter what the caliber or breed.

Another option I want you to consider is a Mercedes. For $80 to $90 thousand you can get something really wholesome from even the AMG stable.

Honestly, the evo X doesnt even weigh in when you are talking that sort of money.

The coin you are thinking of dropping is "Euro" territory, my friend.

People with budgets way less than that end up going for Japanese exotica and that is strictly limited to the stratospheres of GTRism and NSXism.

Buying a modern Euro and buying a modern Japanese car are worlds apart.

I have the choice myself my friend and i will go the Euro, Mercedes to be precise. You will pay more in insurance, repairs and maintainance but watch as the depreciation of the Japanese cars plummet sooner rather than later while your Euro ride keeps an even keel and provided youre a relative light foot and stick to the laws as owning a Euro seems to imbibe, and you up for a high resale value.

Euro..

Porsche, BMW, Mercedes or even Volkswagen..

My vote and dats dat.

Edited September 5, 2007 by m3gtr

[BaysideBlue]

Golf GTi won best australian sports car under $60,000 + other awards.

Much popular over the R32 in terms of sales.

http://www.volkswagen.com.au/golf/model_gti.asp

As good as the GTi is it's still an 4 cylinder front wheel drive hot hatch, not really in the same league of the above cars.

Yes I have driven both R32 and GTi, frankly, the GTi felt "cheap" compared to the R32.

[fieds83]

Put the "s" in the word you mis-spelt and you might be on the right track..plus, aside from the fact that the R32 is more than 15 to 17 years old, the Nissan doesnt, in the price range youre at, cut the proverbial mustard...the 33 and 34 included.

Correct me if i have misread your post but the only R32 we are talking about here is the VW Golf R32 3.2 V6 all wheel drive, not the Nissan variant that your post seems to insinuate. The R32 Golf is a very tastefully built car.

Edited September 5, 2007 by fieds83

[m3gtr]

Correct me if i have misread your post but the only R32 we are talking about here is the VW Golf R32 3.2 V6 all wheel drive, not the Nissan variant that your post seems to insinuate. The R32 Golf is a very tastefully built car.

my mistake. Youre right, but only the current model...

the previous Gen r32 was a lard assed pig.

[lach 32]

don't get the golf, my mate has a Mk v GTI with the dsg gear box and after a few months it gets so boaring to drive with. If you get one you should deffently go for the manual as the dsg takes away from the driving experience. With the porsche it will most likely be a nice car to drive but i don't think it's going to be the best out of the bunch when it comes to performance and trackdays, plus it is a porsche.....but the cheapest one. just my 2 cents.

[maccattack]

Don't think you could go past the Evo X.

Golf is a nice car - relatively quick but also relatively tame. Not known for "high" performance. You'd be happy on the road but not on the track.

R34 as previously stated - 5 years old and getting older. As with any GTR, want a lot out of it - open your wallet. Don't get me wrong - I love them but if my GTR is any guide, $$$$$.

Porsche boxter - has come down in price so much because they are a bit of a dog. Under powered ladies car.

Evo X - even in stock form is very quick. This is a new car so you have the added advantage of warranty. Doesn't need a lot of mods to be a lot quicker. Good on both road and track.

[Smurf]

If having an enjoyable drive is your objective then I don't think you can go past the Porsche in this instance. Amazing feedback, chassis, grip, breaking etc.

I agree that the R32 has the best fit and finish however all reviews I have read imply it is average given price.

I couldn't live with the Evo's interior or current looks. Would be a good choice if you wanted to do track days.

As for GTR, an amazing machine however they now hold a stigma that I don't particularly like. Probably the best option if you are willing to modify and want to set the fastest track time.

[TTT]

Any of u guys actually driven an evo???

Livable on a daily basis?? yer if u like the lack of down low torque mixed with a laggy turbo... not a good combo for daily driver

LMAO..

Have "YOU" driven an EVO?

$56,789 (manual), plus options and costs.

Warranty

5 years/130,000 km.

Engine Size/Type

2.0-litre, DOHC, 16-valve, turbocharged inline 4-cyl.

Power

206 kW at 6500 rpm.

Torque

355 Nm at 3000 rpm.

Transmission/Driven Wheels

Six-speed manual, all-wheel-drive.

How exactly do you find 355NM at 3000rpm LAGGY?

or are you going by the video you saw of TIFF NEEDLE in the UK EVO 400 or what ever it was where he has a top gear race against a festiva where they put it in top gear and do a rolling race from 20km/h

The onyl thing about the evo being bad for daily is the stiffness of the suspension.

these figures are for the CURRENT MIVEC equiped EVO 9.

Every EVOhas been more lively than the last..

the X can only be better.

[SECURITY]

Any of u guys actually driven an evo???

Livable on a daily basis?? yer if u like the lack of down low torque mixed with a laggy turbo... not a good combo for daily driver

and how isnt the boxster entry level???its the crappest cheapest one of the lot.. of course its entry!

the boxter S is not entry level.

there is a boxter with 150ishkw

and there is the boxter S with around 206kw. i was looking for one when i was thinking about selling my bmw. they go for around the $50k mark for an 98ish model and a 06ish model can be had for around $110k.

Edited September 6, 2007 by SECURITY

[m3gtr]

the boxter S is not entry level.

there is a boxter with 150ishkw

and there is the boxter S with around 206kw. i was looking for one when i was thinking about selling my bmw. they go for around the $50k mark for an 98ish model and a 96ish model can be had for around $110k.

im sorry?..how can the 96 version be more than twice the price of the 98 version??

In tokyo you can get an '03 RHD boxster S for $35000!

Edited September 6, 2007 by m3gtr

[TTT]

^^^

98 model = $50K

96 model = $110K??

wrong dates or prices?

or both?

EDIT - Damn you m3gtr!!! hahaha

Edited September 6, 2007 by GTST

[m3gtr]

i knew you were homing in on that GTST!

[Snowman]

I love my car but I couldn't handle it as a daily. I don't get hassled by cops when I'm in it and I ignore wannabe racers quite well so it's not that. It's just not the best car for driving around in everywhere. It's big, the 2 doors can be annoying and things like the boot trim all falls appart when you drive with anything in the boot.

It goes like stink on the track however and thats where I love it.

I've spent a bit of time in EVO's recently however and they are a great daily car. For very very little effort and money you can get one to be a rocketship too and still be streetable. And they have little things like the worlds fastest acting air-con which can be great when you want it. They are definitely a nicer daily to live with than the GT-R IMO.

[SECURITY]

my bad. thats meant to be 06. edited.

[HotPlates]

I've driven the Boxster S and I found it boring and under powered. It definately didn't meet my expectations. But if you're a poser and looking for money hungry chicks than get one. Otherwise, I voted for the Evo X as the best of that bunch for what you're looking for as a daily and a track car. The interior is much improved on its predecessors aswell.

[krzysiu]

and how isnt the boxster entry level???its the crappest cheapest one of the lot.. of course its entry!

Maybe the old ones, but the new ones go 0-100 in under 5 seconds standard without a turbo

[ras1983]

You should buy 2 cars. a rebuilt r32 GT-R for the track (should cost in the mid 30's for clean car with lots of power) and a near new Golf GTi (high 30s to 40K) for a daily driver.

Then you'll have the best of both worlds.

[BaysideBlue]

so true your comment on how skylines have such a negative social image. not that i would actually feel guilty driving one but probably don't need the extra hassle day in and day out. having said that, an R34GTR is still very tempting.

i like your idea of dropping the coin with BMW especially an E46 M3 however only would look at a manual example as I understand the SMG is quite lifeless compared to a proper twin clutch system like VW's DSG. The V10 E60 M5 is still well out of my reach as you can see here http://www.drive.com.au/used/search/results.aspx?m=BMW%7CM5 maybe their used examples are more affordable in Japan I not sure.

I don't generally like Mercedes-Benzes I think they not driver focused cars. Most AMG models are only offered with an auto gearbox which is boring. I would much rather a conventional manual or a mechanical auto like DSG or EVO X's SST.

the only Mercedes I would consider however is a SLK55 AMG but again its a little out of my price range.

Put the "s" in the word you mis-spelt and you might be on the right track..plus, aside from the fact that the R32 is more than 15 to 17 years old, the Nissan doesnt, in the price range youre at, cut the proverbial mustard...the 33 and 34 included.

Forget the Nissan. Its pure folly if you buy an R34 only to look tough plus as has already been mentioned, is already getting long in the tooth.

Tough car ,yes, but such a negative social image. Youll be struggling to keep the police off you.

Have you thought of BMW?? With your budget, you may be within reach of a second hand V10 M5 and at the very least an E46 M3 with SMG gearbox.

What you may not know is that the DSG is really BMW technology in wolves' clothing. I'd stump up for a BMW ANYDAY over a Volkswagen no matter what the caliber or breed.

Another option I want you to consider is a Mercedes. For $80 to $90 thousand you can get something really wholesome from even the AMG stable.

Honestly, the evo X doesnt even weigh in when you are talking that sort of money.

The coin you are thinking of dropping is "Euro" territory, my friend.

People with budgets way less than that end up going for Japanese exotica and that is strictly limited to the stratospheres of GTRism and NSXism.

Buying a modern Euro and buying a modern Japanese car are worlds apart.

I have the choice myself my friend and i will go the Euro, Mercedes to be precise. You will pay more in insurance, repairs and maintainance but watch as the depreciation of the Japanese cars plummet sooner rather than later while your Euro ride keeps an even keel and provided youre a relative light foot and stick to the laws as owning a Euro seems to imbibe, and you up for a high resale value.

Euro..

Porsche, BMW, Mercedes or even Volkswagen..

My vote and dats dat.

Edited September 6, 2007 by BaysideBlue

[Bumblebee]

THE EVO IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR EVERYDAY!

lag isnt an issue because like most of u have said, dont need to "race" the thing everywhere..

but like i asked b4.. how many of u have actually driven an evo??? i have... driven a 6,6.5,7,8 and a 9

They are the worst cars ive ever driven without boost... they have a lack of response.. no torque whatsoever.. if u havent got 3k on the dial, ull get eaten alive by cyclist. its not a fun car to drive slow. its absolutely terrible

a GTR has a heavier clutch but thats about it.. it has better brakes (evo brakes arent so great.. trust me) alot more torque..

when im cruisin around in my gtr, i dont ever get on the boost because theres heaps of torque downlow anyway.. while drivin my mates evos around, i found myself sittin @ 3k all the time just so the turbo gives me that lil bit more torque so i can keep up with traffic. Sure the evo handles like its on rails and all, but its a daily driver.. who cares how it handles..

why u think commonwhores and falcons r the most driven cars??? cheap??? @ 40k i think not... its because they make mountains of torque from the word go.. its not about how fast it is.. its about how easily it accelerates around town and the evo is by far the worst.