car details before purchase

[Guest Tempest]

Now there is something i am somewhat unclear of...

I have asked twice already if you import a car from japan do all mods have to be removed and destroyed... Both times i have got the answer "correct"

Now.. could someone explain why it is that anyone would purchase a car "highly modified" if all the mods are to be taken off before they actually get it?

This may seem very noob of me but i intend to import soonish.. and i am getting some idea's of how it all works.

I downloaded the FAQ's from www.prestigemotorsport.com but it didn't answer the question fully...

[Daz]

Mate its only a matter of time untill it all loosens up a little. There is plenty of compliancers that will hold on to your parts and then refit them back on. The only problem will be supplying the original parts but by then many compliancers will have a shit load of spares.

[Guest Tempest]

yeah cool.. i spose it does only take a cool compliancer and he makes the whole ordeal cost effective.. and worth while

[Shell]

there are SOME people with brains in Canberra!!

no, I agree though...and umm...what Merli said :uh-huh:

[predator]

hey, that was my idea as well, i am sure i wrote it in a thread somewhere

I don't want to live in Japan though unfortunately...

[Ash]

whats the exact wording of the law?

maybe you can take all the mods off the car and import the car without an exhaust, and then at the same time import a second hand exhaust etc... in the same container? then put the mods on the car during compliance?

[kakimoto33]

It is dependant on how the car enters the country, so there should be nothing to stop you taking off the parts overseas and shipping them with the car .. as long as the car itself is 100% stock and any aftermarket parts are not fitted prior to registration.

[franks]

it all seems to simple to remove the mods and get them shipped over seperately ... its going to cost $'s to:

a) remove the mods

B) source stock bits

c) install stock bits

d) send over original mods seperately

e) re-install mods when landed

i wonder by the end of it how much you've really saved...?

[kakimoto33]

EXACTLY - it is not going to be a cheap process, even with cheap original parts in Japan .. you will need to have "friend" over there that can do all of the running around for you..

[regan]

Question:

When is a RAW NOT a RAW?

Answer:

When they leave on or re-fit after market(non-conforming parts) with-out evidence!!!

This is going to be a huge problem for "some" of the RAW workshops here in Aust particularly the ones importing Skylines,as to import and sell a stock33 will be about as saleable as a" pair of trousers filles with African killer bees" . and some Raws have allready gone out and publically said"If they think I am going to remove a S/Steel Trust exhaust of a vehicle and destroy it ,they must think I am a F%CK$# Idiot" un-quote!!!!

I wonder how long someone will be a RAW for with that kind of attitude?

What would happen to somebody who has paid a deposit to a RAW to import a modified Skyline, and the vehicle gets inspected and the RAW gets an audit and nailed? where would that leave the client and his vehicle???

[Daz]

Originally posted by regan

What would happen to somebody who has paid a deposit to a RAW to import a modified Skyline, and the vehicle gets inspected and the RAW gets an audit and  nailed? where would that leave the client and his vehicle???

Can someone PLz answer this question

[Lozza150]

A raw without a licence... workshop... and probably in Jail.... or fined heavily.

The customer..... without a car... and probably out of pocket a lot due to the car (probably) being destroyed or re exported.....

(Just guessing here)......

[kakimoto33]

Lozza150 - I think you would be fairly close with that answer..

[Lozza150]

I left out A$$ Raping ...... for obvious reasons.....

oh hang on

DOE!!!!!:slap:

[P1E]

Unfortunately the laws state that all non-standard parts must be destroyed or re-exported...

I am currently importing a vehicle through Geoff and he has assured me that this is untrue. :confused:

[predator]

hehe..

anyway, i wouldn't be trying to get an importer to push the rules as they'll be regular inspections. The only people that are going to suffer from this are those trying to do the dodgy, or you when you're car gets taken back or destroyed. That is one of the whole reasons the new scheme was brought in the first place, to stop some of that from happening.

[kakimoto33]

Originally posted by P1E

I am currently importing a vehicle through Geoff and he has assured me that this is untrue. :confused:

Yes, that is true - ALL aftermarket parts will have to be destroyed or re-exported with evidence provided to keep the RAWS out of hot water when they get checked out by the DOTARS.

At this stage it appears that this may even include stupid things like gear shift knobs and additional gauges .. nobody really knows how strict they will be with enforcing these laws so it will be a case of "better safe than sorry"

I would not personally suggest importing any car with modified parts unless you are prepared to lose them and wear the cost of buying stock parts to replace them .. trying to "sneak" anything through at this stage would be just plain stupid for you and beyond belief for the RAWS workshop.

[regan]

Hi Pie,

If you are talking about a 15Y/O vehicle, a/m gear can be left installed as the only dramas you may encounter will be the local Licencing authorities. and it may just be a case of removing some of the parts to licence the vehicle.

Although if you have been "promised" a vehicle imported by a RAW(SEVS) vehicle with the non-conforming parts retained or re-fitted then be very very carefull. In fact if anybody from"DOTARS"is monitoring this thread then I would say you are allready shot! and possibly the company you have mentioned!!!!!

I would guess that if a RAW was caught out with your vehicle in his premisis that was signed -off and found NOT to be conforming to his evidence ie:17" Rims fitted or S/steel exhaust ect then you would be without your vehicle, and DOTARS would not care who owns it ,as it would come down to a legal claim between you and the RAW, not DOTARS.....

[P1E]

I'm looking to import a relatively stock Series II R33, although a couple I have looked at have had a few small extras (GT-R seats, rims, gauges, etc.).

I was originally under the impression that all aftermarket parts had to be destroyed, but Geoff explained that such rumours are completely unfounded.

[predator]

well if u go blabbing on a public forum about it they soon will be..