Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hi

Just a few quick questions for getting an R32 GTST complianced.

Can I use standard R33 GTST wheels instead of R32 GTST ones?

I have a standard air box on there, but can I have an intercooler if it does't cut through the chassis, or will I have to have the intercooler removed?

For suspension I have TEIN coilovers on the car, does it have to be stock suspension?

Car is basically stock, on stock wheels and will be stock height, stock exhaust, and stock air box.

Thanks,

Abu

Edited by abu
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/184557-compliance-question/
Share on other sites

Hi

Just a few quick questions for getting an R32 GTST complianced.

Can I use standard R33 GTST wheels instead of R32 GTST ones?

I have a standard air box on there, but can I have an intercooler if it does't cut through the chassis, or will I have to have the intercooler removed?

For suspension I have TEIN coilovers on the car, does it have to be stock suspension?

Car is basically stock, on stock wheels and will be stock height, stock exhaust, and stock air box.

Thanks,

Abu

compliance = STOCK everything teins will have to be replaced stock intercooler installed instead of front mount

rims if they are the same size stock then 33's will do

yes, you need stock wheels, stock suspension, stock intercooler. if in doubt talk to the workshop that is complying your car.

Thanks Richard.

compliance = STOCK everything teins will have to be replaced stock intercooler installed instead of front mount

rims if they are the same size stock then 33's will do

Thanks Gary.

Thought this may have been the case.

Well lucky the intercooler isn't on the car, just the TEIN's are the issue now.

Will speak to my compliance guy and see what he can do.

Edited by abu
they will generally charge you like $50 to change them over for the inspection... most places will usually have a stock set of wheels, exhaust and suspension for this reason.

Yep, the workshop is more than happy to supply stock parts, but I don't even want to knwo how much they will charge.

Just makes it easier/quicker as well as cheaper if I have the car stock when it goes in.

Edited by abu
they will generally charge you like $50 to change them over for the inspection... most places will usually have a stock set of wheels, exhaust and suspension for this reason.

I want to go to this workshop! if you know a place that can lend standard GTR exhaust, wheels with new tyres, standard suspension and can do the swap and swap back for $50 I'm totally there! there is at least 3-4 hours labour in all that, plus they need to get the parts from somewhere. most places I know charge their usual hourly rate (anything up to $100/hour) to do that work and you supply the parts, or pay them for parts they supply.

I want to go to this workshop! if you know a place that can lend standard GTR exhaust, wheels with new tyres, standard suspension and can do the swap and swap back for $50 I'm totally there! there is at least 3-4 hours labour in all that, plus they need to get the parts from somewhere. most places I know charge their usual hourly rate (anything up to $100/hour) to do that work and you supply the parts, or pay them for parts they supply.

I was waiting for someone to reply with that exact statement lol

i dont charge to demod a car :)

and yes u can use r33 GTs wheels on a 32 GTs/GTR as they are the same offset and size.... basically if the rim whether its a factory fitted rim or aftermarket rim as long as the rim size and offset are the same and t matches your tyre placard

Ive complied a few GTR with work emotion rims just had to get new tryes fitted to em

Edited by nuR.spec
  • 2 weeks later...
i dont charge to demod a car :thumbsup:

and yes u can use r33 GTs wheels on a 32 GTs/GTR as they are the same offset and size.... basically if the rim whether its a factory fitted rim or aftermarket rim as long as the rim size and offset are the same and t matches your tyre placard

Ive complied a few GTR with work emotion rims just had to get new tryes fitted to em

Awesome thanks for that buddy.

I double checked with my compliance guy today, and he said after market suspension is fine as long as it sits at the factory height the car out at.

Will be adjusting the TEIN's before car goes in for compliance.

Anyone know what height R32's came out at standard? Will do a search, but thought I'd just ask in here since I was writing up a reply :woot:

Thanks,

Abu

Anyone know what height R32's came out at standard? Will do a search, but thought I'd just ask in here since I was writing up a reply :domokun:

Thanks,

Abu

On the motortraders.net site, they say it was 150mm ground clearance, but not sure how much it is from centre of wheel to guard.

On the motortraders.net site, they say it was 150mm ground clearance, but not sure how much it is from centre of wheel to guard.

I think its 360 from wheel to guard.. something similar to that.

I have it written down at home somewhere :whistling:

Thanks Adam.

No worries. I'll get you the stock height from centre of wheel to gaurd tonight off my car. It's still standard height :)

It's a GTS-4, but should be the same for GTS-T.

I'll let you know tonight or tomorrow morning.

  • 5 weeks later...

Most compliance places only make the swap if they get audited by DOTARS, which is about 1 in 20 cars.... usually, they will just leave the mods on. Probably better to contact the compliance workshop and if they say they can do it for you, go with someone trustworthy.

If they do get audited, the workshop will be busted big time. AND, your car will be blacklisted and never able to be complied, it'll have to be destroyed or exported from Australia (within 30 days I believe).

We comply all our own skylines, so give us a call if you're in Melbourne.

cheers,

david

I want to go to this workshop! if you know a place that can lend standard GTR exhaust, wheels with new tyres, standard suspension and can do the swap and swap back for $50 I'm totally there! there is at least 3-4 hours labour in all that, plus they need to get the parts from somewhere. most places I know charge their usual hourly rate (anything up to $100/hour) to do that work and you supply the parts, or pay them for parts they supply.

your car should not get exported or destroyed for aftermarket parts . It will only be cubed or exported if it has structural accident damage or corrosion affecting the structural integrity of vehicle

however technically the RAW is supposed to "dispose" of all non-conforming parts .

bottom line , the car has to be returned to stock bar a couple of exceptions (rims) . Suspension is out , totally out . Having just been over this with dotars , any suspension changed would affect braking tests which would mean the car would not meet the same results as the evidence being used for compliance.

Edited by 32vspecII

it will need to be exported / destroyed if the RAWS workshop gets AUDITED by DOTARS, AND is not able to produce your car (w/ stock parts) within 24 hours.

That is a compliance violation and results in automatic blacklist for the VIN, which is why you have to leave your car at most compliance places for 1-2 weeks, while the work only takes a short while to do.

your car should not get exported or destroyed for aftermarket parts . It will only be cubed or exported if it has structural accident damage or corrosion affecting the structural integrity of vehicle

however technically the RAW is supposed to "dispose" of all non-conforming parts .

bottom line , the car has to be returned to stock bar a couple of exceptions (rims) . Suspension is out , totally out . Having just been over this with dotars , any suspension changed would affect braking tests which would mean the car would not meet the same results as the evidence being used for compliance.

do you know of this actually happening ?

sorry to be a pain but obviously I am very interested if thats the case as squilions of raws cars get through with minor mods of this and that all the time . just read this forum .

all i can find in the raws guide is

Crash damaged or corroded vehicles where the structural integrity may be affected

must be re-exported or destroyed. It is expected that a RAW would take all

reasonable steps to avoid importing a crash damaged or corroded vehicle.

the only thing mentioned under non conforming parts is disposal

i cant be bothered going over the legislation as its 6am.......but i will check it later and see if i can find anything

Sorry, maybe I'm not being clear. Any kind of mod is fine, as long as the workshop has spare parts on hand and can swap them on in case DOTARS come in for an inspection. If a workshop finishes complying a vehicle and submits for approval, DOTARS has the power to check that vehicle (rarely happens, but does happen). If DOTARS audits AND the vehicle isn't stock, boom, blacklist.

This isn't a problem if it's a simple aftermarket Skyline exhaust or something, cause we (and almost every other Skyline compliance center) have those kinds of pieces. The problem starts when you get an Aristo that had a bunch of parts replaced in Japan or something, which means we have to have all those pieces. We have turned cars away from compliance for this before.

Basically, if you have doubts whether or not your specific car is compliable, ask a shop first, then if they say yes, feel free to take it to a dodgy backyarder in the countryside to save a couple hundred bucks. Or, save yourself the hassle of hidden charges, expensive added parts, etc. and just get it done at a reputable place for starters.....

do you know of this actually happening ?

sorry to be a pain but obviously I am very interested if thats the case as squilions of raws cars get through with minor mods of this and that all the time . just read this forum .

all i can find in the raws guide is

Crash damaged or corroded vehicles where the structural integrity may be affected

must be re-exported or destroyed. It is expected that a RAW would take all

reasonable steps to avoid importing a crash damaged or corroded vehicle.

the only thing mentioned under non conforming parts is disposal

i cant be bothered going over the legislation as its 6am.......but i will check it later and see if i can find anything

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Any difference in induction noise?
    • If I got a dollar for every flipped commuter missile I've driven past I'd have two dollars   Some people get into wild adventures on the road and I doubt it's gender or ethnicity specific. I'm just glad I don't usually drive during peak times.
    • Just got the car back and gave it a good run back home Power wise, whilst it only made a extra 5 killerwasps up top at 7200 rpm, it made more power everywhere from 2500 rpm and kept pulling much harder all the way, to the point of me relearning when to shift so I don't hit the 7200 limiter, with the old intake it seemed to take alot more time to rev out, and, throttle response is also much improved  As I didn't want to remove the bumper every time I serviced the air filter (basically every aftermarket and fabricated CAI has the filter behind the bumper) it currently has a hektic exposed pod in the engine bay sucking in hot air, this will be rectified shortly after some some of my CAD (cardboard assisted design) for a alloy heat shield feed by the OEM intake tube behind the bumper, this will cop some wrinkle black paint, as well as the intake pipe for that totally OEM look... The only fly in the ointment was that the OEM "strut" brace doesn't fit over the rear runner of the new intake with the 2.5 engine is in the engine bay, as the 2.5 raises the engine up by 20mm, it's not a war stopper, and I didn't notice any difference without it in some twisties, but....... MX5 Mania is bringing in some GWR "fancy pants" braces that apparently do fit, if it bolts up I'll grab it, it is also stiffer than the OEM one, which is a bonus All in all I'm happy with the outcome      Fancy pants "strut" brace that gives the required clearance      This is where the clearance issue was, the GWR extends out past this
    • Well, I'm back from the dyno today. Some things do partially make sense. The pod filter/airbox delete picked up between 6-10rwkw on 98 - because heat soak does kind of affect things and there was playing with tune/timing/AFR. Oddly enough, the car was running much leaner than before. So lean it was audibly pinging on the dyno which I got video of:   70de0dd5-2099-4a71-8b10-6fc833fb9d59.mp4   We're talking going from ~12.7 in the past to the first run being at like ~14.0. It is now tuned to ~12.5 on the Dyno, which correlates to about ~12.1 on my wideband in the car. These matched last time, which is very odd. The dyno plots only show the dyno's reported AFR - should be last time, yet now it no longer agrees and was way leaner. Nobody has an explanation for how a pod can make the car run notably leaner, yet not really give any more power when you add fuel in. A few different types of intake design were tested:   94c22c34-7991-4902-af85-314b5f5bf352.mp4   There was no difference other than IAT with the pod sticking out of the bay. The pod sticking out of the bay (but connected) is actually still warmer than what I usually see on the road. Removing the pod entirely lost about ~2kw. But to be fair, all of the runs could be argued to vary by that amount when temperatures climb etc etc. It's safe to say that the filter isn't causing any restrictions of any note that can be reasonably altered in any way. This is in line with what I'd expect given the Engine Masters testing. 323KW on 98 and ~335KW on E85 is actually a pretty solid result, up about ~45kw from 99% of LS1 cammed combos, with generally much larger cams/exhaust etc as well. It is after all up 42KW (98) and 54KW (E85) from before. +10KW from a pod and removing the box is cheap as chips compared to what the head work cost per kw No, I did not get to drop the exhaust and test. When it comes to exhaust... it all just seems to change frequencies and cost or gain 2hp here or there. I don't realistically think I'll drop this to test it - because there's not much else I can really do about it/route it any other way/make it bigger/just bought mufflers. Engine masters beat the hell out of headers with a hammer to deliberately kink them and didn't lose power at all, I sincerely doubt that going larger primaries would help. If it were even possible for clearance/conversion reasons... which it's not... I may throw the E85 in there at some point and do a drag run to see what MPH it traps for science. It isn't lost on me that ~320kw Skylines do trap about the same MPH that ~370kw F-Body/Corvettes do in the USA for the same  or similar weight. (122-125mph). Of course, if I go there and trap 104mph or something then I'll just 'accidentally' have an accident on the way home from the drag strip and buy a M4.
×
×
  • Create New...