The Nissan Skyline-9th Best Sportscar Of Alltime

[sewid]

There are so many random lists like this that it just isn't worth paying attention to any of them. Just enjoy what you have whatever it may be.

[redevil]

I watched that show and there was consistancy... it wasn't all about the power and speed it was about the allround package, driver comfort, appearance, features, power, handling, affordability everything all round....

[sh@un]

Yea im watching the show now.. 9th aint to bad at all, Considering the Ferrari Enzo only came in at 5th.

Enzo has no steering feel according to the reviews i've read- hardly the makings of a great sports car

Also, the paddleshift makes it less involving than it should be (so i hear )

[swanny180]

Yeah was about to say, 1.8t is a bit heavy too dont you think...?

I thought r34 GTRs were around the 1500kg mark, 1600kg at most?

[ras1983]

Yeah was about to say, 1.8t is a bit heavy too dont you think...?

I thought r34 GTRs were around the 1500kg mark, 1600kg at most?

not if an american is driving it... apparently their medium meals at McDonalds are the size of our Large.

[AdamsR33]

funny how they were taping a GTS-T! and the driver couldn't drift for shit.

[thrtytwo]

lol watching this atm, its been on before. its a british show so 9th is a good spot i spose . the whole section though theyre talking about GTR's, never call itthat though, just 'skyline' also they show all interior shots of R34 GTR and exterior of R33 Gtst S2 lol, some chick trying to drift who keeps spinning out, they have a power FC and they show host is like "using this coimputer they hack into the engine and make any adjustments they want !" was funny, really talked it up ! no wonder yanks want em so bad hehe.

[AdamsR33]

lol watching this atm, its been on before. its a british show so 9th is a good spot i spose . the whole section though theyre talking about GTR's, never call itthat though, just 'skyline' also they show all interior shots of R34 GTR and exterior of R33 Gtst S2 lol, some chick trying to drift who keeps spinning out, they have a power FC and they show host is like "using this coimputer they hack into the engine and make any adjustments they want !" was funny, really talked it up ! no wonder yanks want em so bad hehe.

Actually it was a S1 33.

[700HP-GTR33]

How can you give it any cred if they put a Mazda MX5 in 2ND pos.

I mean..I like the car but..pffft...a little low on power..lol

My top ten are.

Porsche 998

Porsche GT3

Bugatti Veyron

Dodge Viper

Lambro Countach

Nissan GTR

Mazda RX7 series 8

Enzo Ferrari

Jaguar DB9

Mercedes SLR(sure it is called this)

[wizlb]

Hey Im an American and ya our burgers are largest

no wonder yanks want em so bad hehe.,,,A yank is someones grandfather who fought in WWII.

The only thing I was trying to do is let you guys know what others think of our skyline.

The show also pointed out one big problem to. why the skyline as it is now will never be on the roads there.

The shows host said the car can get up to 1000HP, and with that kind of HP in the hands of a young man....America said H..l know.

Peace

[SiR_RB]

yeh i remember seeing this on discovery, they showed an R33 - they said it was a "hackers car, because of the way you can tap in the cars ecu (they showed a power fc hand controller) they added timing etc

10th was the lamborghini countach (spelling)

Edited September 12, 2007 by SiR_RB

[scathing]

I think its cos people consider it to be up there with the likes of porsche and ferrari (355) or something - i forget......however i dont know how true that is, but thats just what i heard.

A Porsche 911 isn't a supercar either. That car is, to quote Clarkson, just a trumped up Volkswagen Beetle.

It may be as fast, but a supercar is more than being fast. A supercar is an event. A GT-R is no F40, or Countach, or XJ220, or Bugatti EB110. Remember, the Countach was shit to drive in anything but a straight line. So were old Ferraris.

In modern terms its certainly no Zonda, Enzo, Murcielago, or Veyron. It lacks the purity of purpose of the first two, and the excess of the last two.

If we were talking about driver's cars or sports cars I'd rate the GT-R a lot higher than 9th. But a "supercar" its not.

Edited September 12, 2007 by scathing

[scathing]

The show was called "The Greatest Ever - Top 10 Sports cars".

Mclaren should have been no.1 in my books.

If its sports cars and not supercars, then the Countach shouldn't even have made it.

An Elise should have been in there. As should have a Westfield / Radical, and possibly the Ariel Atom. The Corvette should also have qualified.

[scathing]

The closest things to japanese supercars are NSX's, GTO's and 300ZX's (all 3 of which were coincidentally sold worldwide, including australia and america).

Variants of the 300ZX came with rear seats, which rules it out of supercardom in my books.

No supercar should ever have rear seats, unless its McLaren F1 style.

[HotPlates]

I watched that show and there was consistancy... it wasn't all about the power and speed it was about the allround package, driver comfort, appearance, features, power, handling, affordability everything all round....

You must have been watching a different show because there is no consistency in steering, power, comfort, features, affordability etc between an MX5 and any of the other cars mentioned.

The MX5 was purely rated on sales numbers. What a joke of a program! Then there was wanker comments like "Oh the Skyline is way too heavy". Yet they glorified heavier and slower cars. WTF?

Also, there is no way the NSX is a supercar. It may look like one, but certainly lacks the power of one to qualify as a 'super car'. The next gen NSX should change this though....hopefully!

There is nothing stopping the Japs from making a 'true' super car that would be on par if not better than current examples. It's just that no one would be willing to pay $300k for one. I don't think the people who can afford super cars go for just all out power and handling. There is an element of exclusivity and beauty that plays a part in their decision.

[thrtytwo]

Actually it was a S1 33.

my bad, just seen the S2 spoiler

[m3gtr]

Enzo has no steering feel according to the reviews i've read- hardly the makings of a great sports car

Also, the paddleshift makes it less involving than it should be (so i hear )

here in quotes the arm chair enzo specialist...

please go and write one off and then put up a thread to tell us how it felt.

thatd be tops!

[m3gtr]

A Porsche 911 isn't a supercar either. That car is, to quote Clarkson, just a trumped up Volkswagen Beetle.

It may be as fast, but a supercar is more than being fast. A supercar is an event. A GT-R is no F40, or Countach, or XJ220, or Bugatti EB110. Remember, the Countach was shit to drive in anything but a straight line. So were old Ferraris.

In modern terms its certainly no Zonda, Enzo, Murcielago, or Veyron. It lacks the purity of purpose of the first two, and the excess of the last two.

If we were talking about driver's cars or sports cars I'd rate the GT-R a lot higher than 9th. But a "supercar" its not.

whoa!! JC is the be all and end all of anything to do with automotive...ANYTHING!

sorry...forgot he was God..ahem,..,.,.,.,.

by the way, were all your other dribblings Clarkson misdemeanors too?

[scathing]

by the way, were all your other dribblings Clarkson misdemeanors too?

I made a resolution to play nice, but if you want to start up again we can have another thread that is going to end up getting deleted because of how badly I embarrass you and your inability to grasp basic concepts.

The 911 is an amazing sports car, but supercar it is not. The Carrera GT is definitely a supercar though.

Edited September 12, 2007 by scathing

[scathing]

Also, there is no way the NSX is a supercar. It may look like one, but certainly lacks the power of one to qualify as a 'super car'

If the NSX doesn't qualify as a supercar based solely on its power, rather than its design brief and execution, then no Japanese car does as they're all making the same 280ps.