Will R33 Gts4 Coilovers Fit R33 Gtst

[mesmerized]

hi there, yes i have searched, but only found one comment saying that they wont fit, just wanted definitive confirmation

the guy selling the coilovers (r33 gts4 tein SS aus spec) says they'll fit, BEL garage says they'll fit.

croydon, UAS, justjap say they wont fit, and some workshops are unsure

i only need to know if the rears will fit

need to know by tonight

cheers in advance

[mesmerized]

anyone???

[Ryan D]

Yep, they will fit, the suspension kits are exactly the same as a GTS-T for the R33 series (note searchers, doesnt apply to R32)

[Kaido_RR]

hi there, yes i have searched, but only found one comment saying that they wont fit, just wanted definitive confirmation

the guy selling the coilovers (r33 gts4 tein SS aus spec) says they'll fit, BEL garage says they'll fit.

croydon, UAS, justjap say they wont fit, and some workshops are unsure

i only need to know if the rears will fit

need to know by tonight

cheers in advance

im not 100%, but i would assumed they won't fit because the gts4 is awd, so you would assumed it would be the same as the gtr suspension.

here is a photo of

gtst coilovers

and

gtr coilovers

As you can see only the rears are difference, best bet is to look under your car at the rear and you should be able to see what the suspension looks like then compare it to the above photos

Edited October 11, 2007 by [Michael]

[Ryan D]

Speaking to another GTS-$ owner he also has confirmed you used the GTS-T suspension..

[OoskylineoO]

so does this mean i can go and buy some coilover kits for a r33 GTST to directly bolt onto my r33 GTS4 ?!?!

i.e, r33 gtst, gts4 use the exact same suspension kits?

Edited March 27, 2008 by OoskylineoO

[Sydneykid]

No. They will "fit" but they won't "work". The front shocks are much shorter on the 4wd's due to the higher placement of the lower mount which is required to clear the front drive shafts. The front spring rate, and the damper rates, are too high for a 2wd due to the extra weight (~12%) that a 4wd carries over the front wheels.

BTW, you can't use a GTR kit either as their rear shocks have forks for the bottom mounts, not eyes like GTST's and GTS4's.

Cheers

Gary

[OoskylineoO]

i read in another similar thread that some1 had r32?, r33? gtr front pair adjustable coilovers and a pair of rear adjustable r33 gtst coilovers and worked fine. Is there any major or long term problems with this set up?

SK, do you have a set of adjustable coilovers for r33 gts4?, if so how much do they go for?

[steve33]

i read in another similar thread that some1 had r32?, r33? gtr front pair adjustable coilovers and a pair of rear adjustable r33 gtst coilovers and worked fine. Is there any major or long term problems with this set up?

SK, do you have a set of adjustable coilovers for r33 gts4?, if so how much do they go for?

i hav a set of teins for a gts4 if your interested. pritty much brand new. lookin for round da 750 mark for them

[Sydneykid]

i read in another similar thread that some1 had r32?, r33? gtr front pair adjustable coilovers and a pair of rear adjustable r33 gtst coilovers and worked fine. Is there any major or long term problems with this set up?

SK, do you have a set of adjustable coilovers for r33 gts4?, if so how much do they go for?

These are the Group Buy full kit details, over 160 kits sold to happy Skyliners, read the reviews in the various Group Buy threads

Nissan Skyline

R33GTS4

Front Springs $144.00

Rear Springs $144.00

Front Bilstein Shocks $588.00

Rear Bilstein Shocks $588.00

BNF27Z Front stabiliser bar $219.00

BNR11XXZ Rear stabiliser bar $219.00

KCA332 Caster Kit $110.00

KCA348 Front Camber kit $183.00

KCA347 Rear Camber Kit $123.00

KCA349 Rear Subframe alignment kit $105.00

W0921 Bump Stop & Dust Cover $102.00

Freight $-

Sub Total $2,525.00

Less extra 5% $126.25

Total $2,398.75

Payment is required at the time of placing the order.

I can do credit card, just PM me the details, or bank transfer

Account Name Jamex Australia

Bank StGeorge Bank

BSB 332-086

Account No 551029694

PM me the transfer receipt number and we are underway.

Please don't forget to send me full name and address for the order plus a contact phone number for the courier in case they need directions or instructions if no one is home.

Springs are usually in stock at Redranger

Bilstein takes 1-2 working days to machine the additional circlip grooves

Bushes are usually in stock at Redranger

Stabiliser bars take 4-5 working days to make as we do not keep stock of the unique Group Buy bars

Delivery is via Star Track Express and usually takes 1-2 working days to anywhere in Australia.

I will PM you the con note number as soon as it is issued it that way you can track the delivery on the Star Track web site.

Skylines NEVER have enough caster, that's why they wander at speed, are reluctant to turn in and have poor steering feel. Hence the need for adjustable caster (radius rod) bushes.

The standard rear subframe bushes are very soft, silicone filled. They are soft when new and do wear over time until they finally leak. The rear subframe alignment kit supplements the standard bushes, stops the subframe from flopping around and at the same time give some adjustment of the rear squat. This allows for improvement in the rear traction.

If you lower it and don‘t correct the excessive negative camber you will suffer from rapid tyre wear, as well as reduced traction for handling, braking and accelerating.

For camber kits, please keep the following in mind when lowering yours. This is what is usually needed for each height increment, note that all measurements are centre of wheel to guard;

Standard (new) height is 380 mm front and 370 mm rear

360/350 mm needs only the standard rear camber adjusters

350/340 mm needs 1 front camber kit and 1 rear camber kit

340/330 mm needs I front camber kit and 2 rear camber kits

The standard suspension bushes are very soft. They are soft when new and do wear over time until they finally split and fail completely. The Whiteline bushes are obviously new plus they are up to 75% stiffer than new standard bushes. This stops the suspension arms from flopping around and dynamically changing the camber, toe and caster settings over every bump and ripple in the road. This is especially noticeable when cornering loads are applied, hence you get a noticeable improvement in tyre contact patch and hence traction.

I have included a couple of kits of bump stop/dust covers as the R33's are getting on now and most times the standard ones are stuffed. It saves a couple of days waiting around to get them delivered when you find the standard ones are unusable.

The Group Buy Bilsteins have additional circlip grooves added so you can set the height you want before you fit them. There are 6 grooves 8 mm apart and I can tell you the height that you will get from each groove. Keep in mind that GTS4's handle best around 355 mm front and 345 mm rear (centre of wheel to guard).

Adjustable shocks are only worthwhile if you know what you are doing with the adjustments. Most of the time shocks have adjustment to cover up for their unsophisticated valving. This means they only work in a small range of conditions and so they have to have the adjustment. Bilsteins have very sophisticated valving and consequently have a large window that they operate well in. Simply put, they don't need adjusting. Plus I have selected the valving to suite the Group Buy kit.

I think that about covers it, if you have any questions please just ask

Cheers

Gary