New Gtr

[scathing]

As the title says, Looks like the GTR is on the right path to become the best/fastest car to roll off the production line!

It’s reporting that an unofficial hand-timed 7m 38s shows the GT-R’s skinned the Turbo’s official 7m 40s, making it one of the fastest production cars to ever loop the Nurburgring’s notorious Nordschleife.

"One of the fastest" is not "the fastest". And, as I said in a previous thread, its still more than half a minute off the production car lap record.

[m3gtr]

What Adam posted isn't even the half of it

26th September: http://www.7tune.com/?p=111

21st September: http://www.7tune.com/?p=109

11th September: http://www.7tune.com/?p=106

28th August: http://www.7tune.com/?p=100

10th August: http://www.7tune.com/?p=88 (first mention of the 'VR38' engine code anywhere, now official)

8th August: http://www.7tune.com/?p=87

11th June: http://www.7tune.com/?p=31

a totally shameless plug!! have you no decency??

btw, why dont let me write the articles next time you let pete loose on a story..? :sorcerer:

[monaroCountry]

- The chassis code is CBA-R35

- Weight is ~1590 kg/3500 lbs (other sources say 1740kg)

Other sources are correct!!!!!!

[scandyflick]

evidence of this please mr monaroCountry?

[rev210]

Other sources are correct!!!!!!

No I heard it was 2500kgs and only has a briggs and stratton lawnmower engine!!!!!!!!

[N1GTR]

I heard it was a Victa engine

[JUN`R32]

i heard it runs on water :laughing-smiley-014:

damn water restrictions !!

[Ant97GTR]

something that irks me to date is why they insist on retaining the Skyline stovetops if they want to break away from teh Skyline lineage with the new GTR.

It has been written that a senior engineer in charge of development and design stated that there will be no GTR without round rear tailights....

[monaroCountry]

evidence of this please mr monaroCountry?

Those were from the "pre-order catalog scans"

The image is too small but the specs, price, equipment lists, and options list have already been listed up.

http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/20...e-who-cant.html

[MADGT4]

Other sources are correct!!!!!!

So what happened to all this talk of it not being an "R35" and breaking away from the whole Skyline name?

[MADGT4]

EDIT:

My bad double post!

Edited October 4, 2007 by MADGT4

[rev210]

grabbed this info to add...

Holiday Auto has been hard at work putting together a 10 page article exploring the new GT-R’s engine, chassis, driveline and interior features, some of which is old news by now but included nonetheless. We’re told that Nissan was in fact looking at a V8 engine to use in the GT-R in its early stages of development but found that the VK45 from the Nissan President wasn’t an engine worthy of the ‘R’ in the GT-R’s badge. Although it could satisfy the power, torque and driveability deemed necessary for the GT-R, the way in which it delivered those attributes was more befitting of a large saloon than a GT car. There was also a status problem, the VK45 being associated with Nissan’s luxury sedan would cause problems with potential GT-R buyers who were looking for more exclusivity… well exclusivity is what they got.

The VR38VETT

Holiday Auto broke the news about the existence of a VR based GT-R engine last month, and since then has gone one further and given us a actual alphanumeric designation: VR38VETT. The VR38 is actually a recreation of the famed VRH35L V8 powering the R390 Le Mans car albeit in V6 form. A lot of knowledge gained from Group C and endurance racing has allowed Nissan to take the performance aspect of the GT-R that little bit further (over say, a VQ based engine) by taking the basic design of the VR38 and using it for the new GT-R’s V6 engine block and cylinder heads. A surprising feature of the twin turbo system is the ‘Integrated Exhaust Manifold Turbine’ where the exhaust manifold and turbo exhaust housing are formed as one piece. We’re told this is for weight saving, packaging and high response and was chosen over the more costly ‘motor assisted twin turbo system’ that was predicted way back in mid-2004. What all this has resulted in is an engine design that could be viewed as two 1.9L straight 3-cylinder DOHC turbo engines joined by a common crankshaft, with separate intake manifolds and throttle bodies for each bank. The intake manifold is actually the centerpiece of the engine bay, its intake runners being used as a design feature of the VR38VETT as shown in the CG mock up image shown below.

Cosworth’s involvement in the GT-R’s engine development has been mentioned before on many occasions but until now there hasn’t been much information on what they’ve actually done. Holiday Auto tells us the GT-R’s aluminum engine block is a ‘monoblock’ design, meaning it doesn’t use sleeves inside each cylinder bore so that the pistons make direct contact with the block. Cosworth has also reduced the weight of the crankshaft, conrods and pistons to achieve maximum response and a free revving nature that belies its larger 3.8L capacity. It comes as a surprise too that the whole engine looks a lot shorter than what you would expect a 3.8L engine to be, its compact design and light weight being a major contributing factor in the cars overall balance. Many other parts such as the cam covers, timing chain cover, oil pan and a multitude of bolts, screws and washers are all made of magnesium. The GT-R will also use a semi-wet sump system which can handle higher g-forces over a traditional wet sump which start to suffer from ‘oil sloshing’ at around 1.8g. As pointed out in our previous article, the power delivery of the VR38VETT is extremely linear and does not drop off after hitting maximum power at 6,800rpm which was a big factor in proceeding with the development of an all new engine. From as little as 1,500rpm a powerful surge can be felt with - what seems like - all 480ps available with very little throttle application. It has been said that there are very few people with enough skill to drive the new GT-R at its limit, this limit being so high that a driver of average skill level would never be able to test the boundaries of the GT-R’s performance… this could possibly be an exaggeration on Holiday Auto’s part, but the point has been made clear: the new GT-R is every bit a Supercar.

[Bumblebee]

Who ever said the GTR wasnt ever a super car?

[monaroCountry]

Seems its a bit heavier than the 1740kg

[Bumblebee]

yer but it also says it has Blembo brakes.. i wouldnt trust a magazine much until the actual thing hit the streets or actually went to a magazine like i dunno... motor magazine? wheels? but on an international level??? whats a really really big world wide mag??

otherwise, theyre just rumour mags... it is meant to weigh in the 1700kgs+ thou

i just dont know about the "blembo" brakes lol

[HotPlates]

Seems its a bit heavier than the 1740kg

I know they call Porsche's 'Porka', but if that's the official weight of the new GTR, we might just have a 'Porka' vs. 'Porky' show down.

The GTR doesn't sound like the most entertaining car from a complete stop at that weight. Hmm. Have to weight and see!

[lingeringsoul]

This GTR reminds me of an Aston Marton, a gentleman's supercar.

I can't wait for the aftermarket front bar to come out....can't say I like what they did to it....still prefer the old design.

[dan_the_man]

the previous GTR's were not classified as super cars sorry

Who ever said the GTR wasnt ever a super car?

[HotPlates]

If the 997 turbo is not a 'Super car' (and it isn't) and the GTR is benchmarked on it, but only just quicker, then I'm afraid the GTR is not a 'Super Car' either.

[deant1]

imo this car looks nice and all. may or may not hold the nurberg record for 'production' cars. but at the end of the day weight is the major factor.

this car will have lots of power and performance for a 'production' car. what interests me more is how this engine will fare for aftermarket upgrades - will it even be able to hold the same hp as the old RB???? really not so sure on that one.

will look and feel great but wont ever be the toughest street or track car out there from the range currently available.

plus imo, you can't beat manual. 1/2 a second quicker changes????? a lazy man changing gear maybe? if you want no stall then you don't need your clutch and you can't beat the selection from a manual- unles thisnew gearbox has some really fancy shit and knows what corner lies ahead before you get there...

Edited October 4, 2007 by deant1