R34 Gtr

[Brandon]

Hi all,

I'm kinda new here so pardon me if I sound ignorant.

I'm actually looking at getting a 34gtr in a couple of months and would like to know what kinda figures am I looking at per month to support the car. Cost would include petrol, registration, insurance (if there's any), loans etc. Anyone with experience in this can help me out here cause I'm quite new to Australia's car industry?

My friend recommended that I get a normal GTR and buy the N1 turbo myself instead of getting the V spec which is like 10k more (say a normal GTR would cost around 50-60?)? Anyone has any comments to that? Suggestions, recommendations or comments are welcome, I think they'll help me decide on which model to choose from. Last thing, my friend recommended that I should import 1 instead of buying one here too, because I would like to have a black 1. Although there are pros to it but I'm quite skeptical about not able to test drive it 1st and have a feel of how is it. Comments?

Thanks in advance.

Brandon.

[Topaz]

Well, the V-specs have the brembo brake upgrade but don't have N1 turbos, the Vspecs also had upgrades like ATTESSA ETS Pro, firmer suspension and front and rear diffusers so you do get extra for what you pay. So if your looking at spending $50-$60k then a standard GTR, maybe a Vspec would fall in that range.

Importing Japanese cars usually does end up cheaper (jspec imports or imports101 ) but as you say you can't touch n feel for yourself, the spec sheets from auctions are usually pretty good and you can request more information if need be. You could always check carsales and maybe find one in Australia worth buying or transporting to your state.

[a20089]

Support costs per month, well assuming you are over 25 and a great history I'd hazard a guess at 120/month in insurance, double or tripple that if not, rego very depentant but 50/month ACT, petrol, how far do you drive? how do you drive? a tank can be 80 so how many tanks do you expect? Loans you can go onto most bank sites and caculate for yourself. Please tell me you have money saved up first?

I'd get the 34 with the N1 turbo's, more reliable. But personal prefference.

I'd say always get one locally, get it fully checked out in Australia, I've just heard too many things go wrong with imports. Saying that if you can save $10K on an import, that is a lot of repairs you can afford.

Edited October 2, 2007 by a20089

[sewid]

Hi all,

I'm kinda new here so pardon me if I sound ignorant.

I'm actually looking at getting a 34gtr in a couple of months and would like to know what kinda figures am I looking at per month to support the car. Cost would include petrol, registration, insurance (if there's any), loans etc. Anyone with experience in this can help me out here cause I'm quite new to Australia's car industry?

My friend recommended that I get a normal GTR and buy the N1 turbo myself instead of getting the V spec which is like 10k more (say a normal GTR would cost around 50-60?)? Anyone has any comments to that? Suggestions, recommendations or comments are welcome, I think they'll help me decide on which model to choose from. Last thing, my friend recommended that I should import 1 instead of buying one here too, because I would like to have a black 1. Although there are pros to it but I'm quite skeptical about not able to test drive it 1st and have a feel of how is it. Comments?

Thanks in advance.

Brandon.

My advice is to not listen to your friend because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Nor do some people in this thread so far.

The V-Spec's have a few cosmetic upgrades which make the cars look far better (front lip, rear carbon diffuser), it also has active LSD and an upgraded 4WD computer. There are some other minor differences such as intake and exhaust temp readings on the MFD but not much.

ALL 34 GTR's have brembos. V-Spec's may have slightly firmer suspension but there's barely a difference there.

V-Spec II's have a factory fitted carbon fibre bonnet, firmer suspension again, slightly larger rear rotors and all the V-Spec upgrades.

My advice is to:

- Buy the latest model V-Spec or V-Spec II you can afford, avoid the standard GTRs

- Avoid cars with GPS as it adds useless dashboard item which will never be able to be used in Australia

- If you're buying locally, look out for lots of rust on the underbody

- Avoid cars with aftermarket dash clusters

[Snowman]

Yep what sewid said.

And as mentioned earlier (in a half correct post) N1 turbo's are NOT found on V Spec or V Spec II's - only on the N1 models which you won't be getting. If they are the turbo's you want then you will have to upgrade which ever car you end up buying.

[Brandon]

a20089: I'll probably have 20k saved up for that. As for driving, it'll probably be a weekend car since I'm working full time. I reckon about 1 tank per week. I saw a couple of ads online and I still dont really have a rough idea on how much to pay for a standard GTR, v-spec and v-spec 2.

Snowman: Which do you reckon would be a good buy if I am having a budget of 1.3k a month on the car? I'm shit when it comes to loans etc. Please advise.

Cheers

Edited October 2, 2007 by Brandon

[Topaz]

And as mentioned earlier (in a half correct post) N1 turbo's are NOT found on V Spec or V Spec II's

Half correct?! The only correction was that all 34GTR's have Brembos .

To clarify why I said that Brandon, 32GTR Vspec models had the upgrade Brembo brakes (from Sumitomo? or are they just the calipers!). I now know all 33's had Brembos as well.

Carry on

[Brandon]

Thanks for the infos, I've always think 34gtr is my dream car and hopefully it wouldnt be a dream for long. But still I hope to get my hands on some figures from someone who owns a GTR or experienced with loans etc, roughly how much am I looking(all cost added up together considering petrol to be at $350 per month) at every month if I were to buy it.

Edited October 2, 2007 by Brandon

[justin911]

sewid im just curious cause ill be getting a new car soon... not a r34 tho but why do you say dont get a 'standard gtr'

or one which has an aftermarket dash ?

[Swink33]

I wouldn't bother importing a R34 GTR as there are sufficient numbers for sale in Australia at cheaper than import prices plus you can examine the vehicle before purchase and avoid waiting the time it takes to import and comply the vehicle.

I would steer clear of the really cheap R34 GTR's as I have heard of previously crashed and repaired GTR's being scraped through compliance and then sold. Any R34 GTR with an aftermarket 320kph Nismo dash should have its km's verified through log books which should show the date of dash change over along with how many km's were on it otherwise I would very skeptical of the km's being genuine.

The main advantage of purchasing a non-v spec model would be that it would be more livable day to day as it doesn't have the front lip that catches on driveways and speed bumps. Also I believe that they are less likely to have been raced and driven hard than the more track focussed v-spec however there will be well kept and maintained v-specs out there its just a matter of finding them.

There is no difference in brake size between v-spec and non-v-spec however there is a difference in the size of the rear rotors which were made slightly bigger on 2001+ update models (both v-spec and non-v-spec). I hear that the rear brakes on 2001+ models were the same as N1 models but I don't know if anyone can confirm this?

[Snowman]

My honest advice is that all R34 GT-R's (infact pretty much ALL GT-R's) and budgets don't go real well together.

They tend to cost owners a lot more than they antisipated.....

My car isn't a daily driver so I can't give you any real figures on typical costs. It lives mainly in the garage until I need to drive it to the race track where it will guzzle 40L of fuel in about 8 laps. And my insurance is based upon the fact that it does limited road km's per year.

[Brandon]

Snowman: You're making me think twice and maybe consider S15 instead =(

[sewid]

sewid im just curious cause ill be getting a new car soon... not a r34 tho but why do you say dont get a 'standard gtr'

or one which has an aftermarket dash ?

Standard 34 GTR's look like a cops ass and have a less resale value. The first question all buyers asked me was "is it a REAL vspec". And in my opinion the 34 GTRs dont look right without that front lip and since the V-Spec's and V-Spec II's outnumber the standard GTRs in production numbers it should be pretty easy to get a V-Spec that fits you.

Aftermarket dash = no idea how many km's the car has done. At least if its the original dash you have a small chance of knowing the real km's.

[SS8_Gohan]

^ dude, why the change? and when did you get rid of the R34? i saw your username, then saw the car you have listed, and i was like hang on, i was sure sewid had a R34

i'd have to agree, the GTR's do look a bit weird without the lower lip and spoiler

[wrxhoon]

Buy a V-spec or V-spec II and buy the best car you can afford, if you was buying a 33 I would say then buy a none v-spec if thats what you want but with the 34 things are different . Keep in mind they are getting old now so its best to find a good example but if you think you will find one that was owned by an old lady and driven to church on Sunday, think again. If you are on very tight budget just go and buy a new car and keep it stock , GTR's and dudgets don't mix well.

If you want one with steel wheel turbos you will have to get a NUR-Spec , not may around and very expensive or an N1.

If I was you I would look for car here in AUS first and only use Japan as a last resort, buy a stock or stockish car with unopened angine and one with little or no rust on the underbody . If you want a little more power stick a pair of HKS GTSS turbos and a power f/c and enjoy it as long as you can stop at that you should be fine ..

I had mine for 3 years now and she is still going great as for fuel you can use as little as 10lts per 100k and as much as you like 30-40lts per 100, depends on how you drive it .

Insurance will depend on you and where you live , check it out with the various companies . Rego is the same as any other car that weighs the same ( in NSW). As for loans check it out with your lender, ask how much it will cost you for the amount you want to borrow .

One thing I can tell you they are fun to drive and thats from someone thats probably old enough to be your dad .

[Brandon]

wrxhoon: Yea, thanks for the advice. Somehow, I'm just the kind of guy that would plan everything, find options and work things out before actually proceeding with the plan. The figure doesnt have to be exact but my point of saying 1.3k-1.5k is like a rough guide for myself. I know when I do get the car, there may be some addition cost, like accidents? repairs? modifications? But just to be on the safer side, I would be more prepare if I know a rough figure.

Like I said, I dont have much knowledge on Cars in Australia but 1 thing for sure, its better to speak to someone like you guys, cause majority of the people I talk to just tell me "you crazy? for more than 50k you can get a decent beemer or new car and you choose to buy an 8yr old car." I look at carsale.com there's not really a lot of options out there and I'm staying in Brisbane. Anyone have an idea on how much it'll cost me to get a decent V spec here or to import 1?

[choyda]

Hi Brandon,

I'm in Brisbane and got my car through an importer. There are a few importers who can do them. Just bear in mind that usually when importing 34GTR's, you will have to pay upfront (purchase price in Japan). Given the high costs of GTR's, its rare for a dealership to get the car (pay for it themselves) and present it to you before you have to pay anything. Remember, there is also the risk of you buying a GTR and once it gets here, it fails complaince.

Damien

[gts-4 dreamer]

for a start no kms on an odo on any grey import should be trusted really, any imported line be it a T or an R will pretty much always be wound back. it ups the price and likely hood of purchase. its all about the markup... wound back odo = stuff all cost and many thousands of $$$ onto the sale price. the import business markup is another with incredibly high mark up but meh thats the business eh.

brembos fitted to all 33r - 34r models

32 v spec 2's got brembo's.

33t's got the sumitomo's that were on the 32r's.

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My honest advice is that all R34 GT-R's (infact pretty much ALL GT-R's) and budgets don't go real well together.

They tend to cost owners a lot more than they antisipated.....

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VERY FRIGN TRUE OF ANY VEHICLE you will drive for fun.

[SS8_Gohan]

choyda, if that is your car in your sig, HOOOOOOOOOOOT!!! what rims are those? bbs?

at least living in brisbane is a plus as that's where the majority of the ships first land after coming from Japan

yeah, as others have said, don't pay too much attention to the odo. Look for things that can't be faked that easily, so wear on the side bolster of the drivers seat. Wear on the gearknob, wear on the steering wheel. These things are going to be a truer indication of usage than an odo. It's a rough guide, but can be more helpful than an odo reading.

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/NISSA...amp;D=R34%20GTR

there's actually a lot of R34 GTR's on sale already in Oz, some good prices too. $50k - $75k (and of course higher as well)

[SS8_Gohan]

99 V-Spec, $49K

23K km's

Sydney, NSW

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...amp;Make=NISSAN

TOMMY KAIRA R34 GTR!! ONLY 1 IN OZ!

'01 V-Spec II, $82K

27K km's

Castle Hill, NSW

Check the mod lits on this thing!!!

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...amp;Make=NISSAN

99 V-Spec, $78K

53k KM's

Hillcrest QLD!

450hp at the wheels

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...amp;Make=NISSAN

99 V-Spec, $52K

123K KM's - (few k's on this one)

Caloundra, QLD

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...amp;Make=NISSAN

01 V-Spec II!, $65K

47K km's

Moorabbin, VIC

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...amp;Make=NISSAN

(EDIT: checked closer, and it's NOT a V-Spec II)

02 V-spec II M-Spec NUR!, $135K

19.5K Km's

Eltham, VIC

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...amp;Make=NISSAN

pricey, but what a car! Collector car this one

02 V-Spec II, $89K

31K, km's

Templestowe, VIC

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...amp;Make=NISSAN

more to come....