Mods Legal For P Platers

[ginger]

Only thing i found the car that i want, but its over 8 hours away, looks like im in for a drive in my old shitty bus, wish me luck guys...

[GTS4WD]

So what did you find?

[Eug]

Obviously you don't know NSW rules.

There is no point in buying such a performance car when you are such a young driver. Learn how to drive first. Petrol is expensive so is rego, insurance and greenslips. I know a quite a few NA's that will beat turbo cars on the track.

I guess in the end if you're going to do something stupid in the car, no matter what car it is you can still end up killing yourself either way.

i live in qld corinne, so you'd be correct

where's the reasoning behind not buying one? if you're basing it on financial position (i.e. petrol,rego, insurance, slips); then it's obviously variable from individual to individual. also correct on 'no matter what car', if anything i would think one would look after their pride and joy alot more than a clapped out tissue box with oreo wheels.

As a suggestion, why not do a few track days to become a half decent driver?

nicely put... f1 drivers don't drive around in corollas for 2-3 years and decide to go pro. they build up from go-karts, etc.

RED P platers cant do any Performance mods, so anything that makes the car faster, i.e exhaust. pod etc...

is this restriction only to power mods? there are other ways to go fast; driver skill, suspension?, learning the track, track rims w/ semi slicks, wheel alignments, etc.

[ginger]

Found an r33 gts but its a fair hike, but then again its for the car that i want, i hate buying cars, cant you guys just tell me to buy one and shove it in my back pocket so i have to pay for it.

Thanks

Dave

[Charles89]

hmmm just wondering...why dont u import one?...

to buy a good 2nd hand gts in aus, will cost u about 13-15k.

but if u import 1 from japan, u could get it for 11-13k easily.

i imported a 96 series 2 gts for about 11k, including compliance and all.

[scathing]

is this restriction only to power mods? there are other ways to go fast; driver skill, suspension?, learning the track, track rims w/ semi slicks, wheel alignments, etc.

Actually, the wording on the RTA web site is that P platers cannot drive a car with engine performance modifications.

Ironically, the letter of said restriction means if you put a higher RON fuel in....you just technically violated the terms of your license. Same with putting more restrictive bolt-ons. Reducing power is still "modifying" power.

However, there's no rule that says a P plater can't drive a car with the interior gutted (in a fashion that is legal for a full license holder), R Comps, and a close ratio gearbox / final drive, That kind of legal modification still gives the car a higher effective power-to-weight, and more acceleration via gearing and initial traction. They can also run aftermarket suspension as well, and increasing their cornering speed / reducing the approachability of the handling limits....which for an unskilled driver is also a recipe for an accident.

[Eug]

bingo!

[_Ryan_]

Actually, the wording on the RTA web site is that P platers cannot drive a car with engine performance modifications.

Ironically, the letter of said restriction means if you put a higher RON fuel in....you just technically violated the terms of your license. Same with putting more restrictive bolt-ons. Reducing power is still "modifying" power.

However, there's no rule that says a P plater can't drive a car with the interior gutted (in a fashion that is legal for a full license holder), R Comps, and a close ratio gearbox / final drive, That kind of legal modification still gives the car a higher effective power-to-weight, and more acceleration via gearing and initial traction. They can also run aftermarket suspension as well, and increasing their cornering speed / reducing the approachability of the handling limits....which for an unskilled driver is also a recipe for an accident.

do this with an rb25de r32... lighter base to start with, with the same motor, and put bigger brakes, helps catch up too the turbo boys who fly down the straights then pull up short :laughing-smiley-014:

[Greg]

Lightened flywheel - no one will ever know.

In fact, you could buy my car - completely stock but with a lightened flywheel Seriously - pm me if you are interested.

Edited October 5, 2007 by Greg