Car Wont Start - Need Urgent Help!

[FSTR32]

Hi guys.I reversed my car into my garage about 3 hours ago to fix up my side skirts and install my new steering wheel and i just went to try start it and it wont kick over. Its soooo close to kicking over but it just cant get there??? any advice or things I can try as I need to get it started before tommorrow lol. Everything was running fine today and there was no indication that anything was wrong so thats why im a little confused. PS i didnt touch anything in the engine bay.

thanks in advance

Edited October 7, 2007 by FSTR32

[axe s]

what did u take off to install the steering wheel... u might have unknowingly disconnected something...

[FSTR32]

ANYONE?????

[FSTR32]

I took old stock steering wheel off and replaced with momo item. didnt touch any wiring except for horn wiring so I doubt i could have bumped anything. The car is getting power just doesnt kick over.

[axe s]

did u check fuses... could have just blown a fuse (could even have nothing with what u were doing...)

[FSTR32]

ok after further investigation I may have found the problem but dont know how to fix. under the steering wheel near the fuse box i have another small white 'NARVA' box (i assume its some kind of fuse box) when ever i try to kick the engine over the box makes a weird clicking noise. The box has 4 wires going to it although it has 5 plugs so there could be another wire that may need to be connected but i cant see any. The box is grounded to the chassis. when you remove the grounding wire the box doesnt tick anymore but it still doesnt kick over so im assuming it has something to do with this white box.

Any ideas???

[axe s]

that sounds like a relay... how big is it, if it is a relay it's right for it to click, and could possibly only have 4 wires... failing blown fuses u should start checking if u have fuel and spark....

[FSTR32]

neva heard the clicking noise before. its like a retarding clicking noise. like sometimes when i go to start it as it trying to kick over it makes several clicking noises in a row. how do i check fuel and spark??

[axe s]

easiest way to check fuel is to just disconnect a fuel line put a bucket under it, crank it for a few seconds and see if any fuel comes out... much easier and safer with 2 people... to check spark u can take out a coil pack put a spark plug in it, rest it on a bit of grounded steel, and crank it see if it has spark... or u can use a timming light normally to make sure u have ignition...

[FSTR32]

nah its definatly getting fuel as i can smell it when im trying to kick engine over. im pretty confident i have spark aswell. new plugs plus splitfires were put in last week. im thinking it has to be something to do with wiring or relay box as the car was running sweet a few hours ago.

[blind_elk]

Get a boost off another battery, ie jump start.

And give it FULL THROTTLE - you have probably flooded the engine by now.

[axe s]

if it's getting fuel and spark and timming isn't out it should really atleast kick over for a few seconds... do u have an aftermarket ecu???

[FSTR32]

yeh i hav a microtech. what do you mean by flooded the engine?is that bad???

[blind_elk]

what do you mean by flooded the engine?is that bad???

Why don't they teach this stuff when you are learning to drive?

Turning the engine over, the ECU is injecting fuel into the cylinder. The fuel is not burning because the engine is not firing. The mixture inside the cylinder is getting richer and richer - more and more fuel, same amount of air. Give it FULL THROTTLE so it gets LOTS OF AIR, and it stands a chance of starting.

[SXR]

starter motor

get something long and give it a hard tap.

[FSTR32]

thanks guys we will see what the auto elec has to say 2morrow

[axe s]

do u have other tunes u can select... if u do, go for your mildist tune..

I don't know if it's flooded... u left it a while between tries didn't u....

[FSTR32]

nah dont have those options. dont have hand contoller or tune selector. Yeh i left it 30 mins between tries

each try was 3 or 4 attempts of kicking it over. dont know what else to do

[FSTR32]

ok auto elec didnt wanna touch it so im back to square one. im starting to think that its something to do with the fuel pump as it doesnt prime itself since the car hasnt been starting. I check plugs and they are fine but there is no fuel smell coming from cylinders but i definatly smelled unburnt fuel after the car was cranking last nyt. What do you guys think? anyway of knowing if its the fuel pump?

[FSTR32]

problem solved. pump wasnt priming so i thought it must have something to do with fuel as i had spark and compression. took hose off fuel rail and attatched a bottle to the hose. cranking the car and not alot of fuel came out. sat there for a minute or 2 and went to check pump wires in boot. ground wire was a little lose so i tightened it up and the pump came on and primed and spat a whole lot of fuel into the bottle (probly 500mls worth)...reattched hose to fuel rail and cranked car and it start so im thinking it was the grounding wire and possibly a blocked line...not 100% sure buts its fixed thank god

thanks for the help guys