The Sa Wasteland

[ontheranch]

I want to heaps bad!!

That dish is yummy.

Hopefully they are for sale still when I get my tax back....

I have applied for a home loan to build so I gotta be smart.

[Inline 6]

yes thats the delimer im in, all cash has been thrown at home loan. preventing me from buying another car.

i need to be sensible there's only 1 carport at my house and thats got GTR written all over it.

its justafiable a normal person needs 3 cars right? 1 for when it rains 1 to drive to work when it dosnt rain and 1 for weekend trips

Edited June 3, 2009 by Inline 6

[nugzy31]

i cant get another project until i get a shed up...my mate has a datto 1200 he wont sell me until i get a shed.....now i just need my "minister of finances" to let me do it....my brother in law is a sparky , so wiring wont be a problem...i helped concrete my uncles burnout pad...so concreting wont be a problem....gotta save money everywhere....this week i have to fix a leak on my eldest's motorbike as well....it never ends

[Madaz]

well hello from Sydney new car doesn't look too bad haven't gone in yet for closer inspection with drawls were too great

[ontheranch]

Does anyone know any cheap companies that do...

Fencing

Driveways/Concrete or Pavers

House perimiter concrete or pavers

Flooring (Tiles/Carpets etc)

I can do it through my builder but he said its cheaper not to....

[Inline 6]

do the paving and carpeting yaself is 1 option

[ontheranch]

do the paving and carpeting yaself is 1 option

That was a joke yeah?

I dont see that working out haha

I cant get the loan until I have quotes for that stuff... well thats if I get pre approved... they havn't got back to me yet...

[Inline 6]

i got my loan without qoutes for it, hmmmzzz although i had a huge deposit they prob didnt care so much cause they gonna get their cash back no matter what.

pavings not that hard i hear, you may break a nail or 2 though

[Aberax]

EOI

Who would be interested in a group buy of jolt cola? I think i can also get the creaming soda, would be looking at about $30 for a 24 x 500ml carton. Pick up from me at vilis or my work.

[ontheranch]

i got my loan without qoutes for it, hmmmzzz although i had a huge deposit they prob didnt care so much cause they gonna get their cash back no matter what.

pavings not that hard i hear, you may break a nail or 2 though

I dont have any nails to break at the moment!

I dunno why... its a Homestart condition.

I can always get quotes and not use them, do it myself over time... if they dont check.

[RubyRS4]

I dont have any nails to break at the moment!

I dunno why... its a Homestart condition.

I can always get quotes and not use them, do it myself over time... if they dont check.

I think a place like Homestart would only instruct the bank to release the funds to the company/tradesperson carrying out the work.

Penny, go to the Home Centre corner of Anzac Hwy and South Road if you can, and get some ideas on who to employ for those jobs. Even the centres that sell the materials (paving etc) will have contractors they can get to do the work. And it should be cheaper than the builder (Homestart) getting it done for you.

I'm in the middle of building my own extension. Doing all the work (99.9%) of it myself and its not easy. Paving would be a breeze in comparison. But I study construction management, so I gotta know this shit.

Even better for you ... stand out the front of my TAFE college and look pretty and sucker some of the studying tradies to do the work for you

The Design and Construction Management course has two sides: the designers/drafters (like me) and the builders (them), and we like to give them crap

Edited June 3, 2009 by RubyRS4

[Inline 6]

I can lend you 1 of my skirts if you need penny rofl warning may look like a tshirt but i assure u its a skirt.

might be cause yeah i amended it after i got approval, or might be the builders and lenders im through know im friends with their biggest client

Edited June 3, 2009 by Inline 6

[ontheranch]

I think a place like Homestart would only instruct the bank to release the funds to the company/tradesperson carrying out the work.

Penny, go to the Home Centre corner of Anzac Hwy and South Road if you can, and get some ideas on who to employ for those jobs. Even the centres that sell the materials (paving etc) will have contractors they can get to do the work. And it should be cheaper than the builder (Homestart) getting it done for you.

I'm in the middle of building my own extension. Doing all the work (99.9%) of it myself and its not easy. Paving would be a breeze in comparison. But I study construction management, so I gotta know this shit.

Even better for you ... stand out the front of my TAFE college and look pretty and sucker some of the studying tradies to do the work for you

The Design and Construction Management course has two sides: the designers/drafters (like me) and the builders (them), and we like to give them crap

Haha well that could work!! Where is your TAFE? Lol

I'll have to get to that Home Centre and have a look this weekend I think.

I have emailed a few places for rough quotes, one of them was more expensive then the builder!

Lucky you being able to do it all yourself, I struggled making the barbie fold and fun house.

I could probably build a dog kennel. Thats about it. Mind you I have never tried...

[Inline 6]

^ if homer can do it and it be a work of art. why cant we all

so whats the mates rates ruby

Edited June 3, 2009 by Inline 6

[RubyRS4]

so whats the mates rates ruby

To design you a building in accordance with all Australian Standards and Council codes ... I wouldn't even hazard a guess for a fixed fee ... but generally $60 per hour is the norm and there are ALOT of hours involved. And thats just the designing stage.

I'm amending the drawings to my house extension every week or so. Its not as simple as drawing the house you want.

Lesson in one storey building design, so listen up ...

The building must be designed for the use of standard brickwork, so the dimensions of the house are determined by the brick course. Openings for windows and doors etc must also meet design consideration of brickwork. There are set dimensions for wall construction and cavities. Cut and fill for the buidling footprint on the site. AS for timber type and strength for roof loads. Council design techniques to be considered for energy efficient homes. Consideration of open space and floor area ratios. Overlooking and overshadowing issues. And so on and so forth. Thats only the tip of the iceberg. I'm designing a house in the south-east corner of the city and its a nightmare because of the narrow dimensions and Council rules!

For the most part, I mainly design road networks in dwelling in-fill areas/residential growth areas. And also site plans for extensions and redevelopments. I'm in the process of applying for an ABN and business name to do some consulting/drafting on the side.

I'd like to stick with the design side of things and leave the labour to other poor bastards

[ontheranch]

That sounds crazy hard.

[RubyRS4]

That sounds crazy hard.

They drum it into you hard enough. Things like this you need to know. Otherwise buildings fall down and people die ... pretty much.

For instance, my floors for my extension are made of timber, suspended over natural ground level. Now I need minimum 100mm clearance from ground to any timber member of the floor. If I use the narrowest timber, I could get away with meeting my existing floor level of 300mm above ground. Well I lose 100mm already from the clearance rule, so that leaves 200mm. Due to the length of my floor bearers of some 7.8m in continuous span, I need 190x45mm timber for my bearers. On top of that goes the 190x35mm floor joists. Well 100+190+190=480, which will be 180mm above my existing floor level of the existing building (not including the 22mm floor boards!). However, I can run the floor joists in single span (not continuous span) between (not on top of) the floor bearers = 100+190=290 which means it meets my current floor level. However, the single spans at (still) such a long span means I need to run them every 450mm, not 600mm to keep the 190x35 profile. Or 600mm at 190x45 profile.

So economically:

7.8m / 0.6 (600mm) = (13+1) 14 rows of joists

therefore 190x45 = 8,500 unit x 14 = 119,700

7.8m / 0.45 (450mm) = (17+1) 18 rows of joists

therefore 190x35 = 6,650 units x 18 = 119,700

Economically they will be identical in cost. So I might as well order more 190x45, rather than a bit of 190x35 and a bit of 190x45.

Lost yet??? And thats only the floor!!! I have to do this shit every week!

[Damo_R34]

If you didn't wanna do it, you wouldn't

[craig R33]

numbers hurt me head.

[ontheranch]

I was lost at bearers and joists.