The Sa Wasteland

[Madaz]

Pete did the CMA run the buzz bus years ago

[SLED]

Pete did the CMA run the buzz bus years ago

couldn't tell you steve, sorry. It's one of the other clubs that have invited us

[Dohmar]

These new anti afilliation laws will be interesting as far as enforcing them. I haven't read the fine print yet but I did get pulled over by avatar near Darlington recently to see if & who I was associated with. I'm wondering whether dealing with an outlaw biker through his legitimate bike business for parts etc is allowed? Or whether socializing with clubs that aren't necessarily branded as outlaw clubs like the Long Riders, Vietnam Vets, Ulysses & CMA (Christian Motorcycles Association) will be tolerated?

My mate & I have been invited to one of their clubrooms next Friday night & we're actually contemplating it, moreso out of curiosity.

Well my dad was a member of viet vets and has friends in both VV and Ulysses... theyre all straight people, so if they get affected by this it'll do absolutely nothing positive for the community. As far as the association rules, I think theyre a load of BS personally. It totally contrary to democratic ideal of 'free assembly' and since its one of those moronic state laws, it'd most likely get overthrowin in the supreme court (if of course you have the money to chase such a goal.) In either case, its a pre-emptive punishment for a marginal group in society, who have not been proved guilty of anything illegal. Thats why its such a waste of money. Whatever comes of this, it'll just meen months of legal wrangling until it inevitably gets thrown out of court. Magistrates are going to be doing a lot of verbal bashing the police prosecution in the next year I think... we might not have a bill of rights but we do have 100 years of legal precedence to draw from, and this is clearly outside the box.

-D

[SLED]

Well my dad was a member of viet vets and has friends in both VV and Ulysses... theyre all straight people, so if they get affected by this it'll do absolutely nothing positive for the community. As far as the association rules, I think theyre a load of BS personally. It totally contrary to democratic ideal of 'free assembly' and since its one of those moronic state laws, it'd most likely get overthrowin in the supreme court (if of course you have the money to chase such a goal.) In either case, its a pre-emptive punishment for a marginal group in society, who have not been proved guilty of anything illegal. Thats why its such a waste of money. Whatever comes of this, it'll just meen months of legal wrangling until it inevitably gets thrown out of court. Magistrates are going to be doing a lot of verbal bashing the police prosecution in the next year I think... we might not have a bill of rights but we do have 100 years of legal precedence to draw from, and this is clearly outside the box.

-D

Its interesting that other states wont go down Rann's road even now that he has set the stage......I'm guessing they're scared of the ramifications.

I'm pretty certain the groups I mentioned (don't know about the Longriders yet) would be exempt from the "Anti Afilliation" laws but where do you draw the line between an outlaw in one of the exempt clubs and an outlaw club, and furthermore how the hell are they going to enforce these laws. If I get pulled over for associating with any of these exempt guys who turns out to be an outlaw, and I state that I wasn't aware of his history, what can they do, how do I know if he has a shady past?!

Although I'm sure Rann means well in cleaning up the state, he has unfortunately set the stage for outlaw clubs to settle their differences (even if only temporarily) and join forces financially to fight this in the High Courts......do you know how much drug & gun money they can put together, enough to drain the states coffers (tax payers money).

On the other hand, spokes people and lawyers for the government have said it would be pointless fighting these new laws in court because they are water tight....me thinks they are trying to bluff the bikers because they know they would run out of our tax payers money before they do!!

[Damo_R34]

Anyone know if you can convert the R34 stock Bar guage to PSI? Does it just involve changing the facia or do i need to replace the whole guage itself?

[Evil34]

Hey Damo,

The stock guage does not actually read bar it read some other silly measurement. The nismo guage reads bar but if you want PSI you have to replace the guage completely like nightcrawler has!!!

Swing him a PM to see what is required.

[Madaz]

I would of thought there would be a facia swap as AMEC did a psi conversion for the 300k speedo on the r33

[Damo_R34]

Hey Damo,

The stock guage does not actually read bar it read some other silly measurement. The nismo guage reads bar but if you want PSI you have to replace the guage completely like nightcrawler has!!!

Swing him a PM to see what is required.

yeah kg/cm2 or something like that. I was trying to avoid replacing the guage altogether, because if i change one, all three need to change otherwise it will look crap.

Ill pm him later, cheers Evil

[D_Stirls]

KG/CM2 is pretty much BAR; here's the conversion.

1 BAR = 1.0193 KG/CM2

[Dohmar]

yeah kg/cm2 or something like that. I was trying to avoid replacing the guage altogether, because if i change one, all three need to change otherwise it will look crap.

Ill pm him later, cheers Evil

mmHGx`1000, its a measure of mercury pressure at sea level. Pointless in automotive application tbh since bar and psi are much much easier (mmHG and bar are both metric, psi is imperial).

I too would like to find out what needs to be done, cause mmHG is craptastic.

-D

[Ryanrb25]

Its interesting that other states wont go down Rann's road even now that he has set the stage......I'm guessing they're scared of the ramifications.

I'm pretty certain the groups I mentioned (don't know about the Longriders yet) would be exempt from the "Anti Afilliation" laws but where do you draw the line between an outlaw in one of the exempt clubs and an outlaw club, and furthermore how the hell are they going to enforce these laws. If I get pulled over for associating with any of these exempt guys who turns out to be an outlaw, and I state that I wasn't aware of his history, what can they do, how do I know if he has a shady past?!

Although I'm sure Rann means well in cleaning up the state, he has unfortunately set the stage for outlaw clubs to settle their differences (even if only temporarily) and join forces financially to fight this in the High Courts......do you know how much drug & gun money they can put together, enough to drain the states coffers (tax payers money).

On the other hand, spokes people and lawyers for the government have said it would be pointless fighting these new laws in court because they are water tight....me thinks they are trying to bluff the bikers because they know they would run out of our tax payers money before they do!!

totally agree pete....

[KISIN]

i need to get a clutch for my 5speed thats going into the 31 (rb30e clutch)

which 1 and where shoud i get it from ? Read on the 31sky.club at my options and the xtreme HD sounds like the go, being only 25% stiffer over the standard (idem no. KNI24001DHD). How much am i looking at ?

Also do i need a new flywheel or can i use my current 1 thats in with the auto (obviously get it machined)???

thanks

[Whiplash]

Its interesting that other states wont go down Rann's road even now that he has set the stage......I'm guessing they're scared of the ramifications.

I'm pretty certain the groups I mentioned (don't know about the Longriders yet) would be exempt from the "Anti Afilliation" laws but where do you draw the line between an outlaw in one of the exempt clubs and an outlaw club, and furthermore how the hell are they going to enforce these laws. If I get pulled over for associating with any of these exempt guys who turns out to be an outlaw, and I state that I wasn't aware of his history, what can they do, how do I know if he has a shady past?!

Although I'm sure Rann means well in cleaning up the state, he has unfortunately set the stage for outlaw clubs to settle their differences (even if only temporarily) and join forces financially to fight this in the High Courts......do you know how much drug & gun money they can put together, enough to drain the states coffers (tax payers money).

On the other hand, spokes people and lawyers for the government have said it would be pointless fighting these new laws in court because they are water tight....me thinks they are trying to bluff the bikers because they know they would run out of our tax payers money before they do!!

i have a feeling it would be at the cops decision, is it like the hoon laws that you are guilty until YOU can provide enough evidence to persuade a judge of your association with the accused people?

[Whiplash]

8 more weeks and i'm a qualified insurance underwriter

[heslo]

What exactly does that mean Nick? Long time no see by the way, how are ya?

[Whiplash]

pretty well much just writing insurance policies for customers. No grey imports though good pay, thinking about selling the 33 as i bus it at the moment and see what i can save up to get a nice car - preferably one that works

haven't been to bad, gonna try and sort out some dates for the go karting this week so we can all catch up (or a ale house parmy night your sig is teasing me)

[ted180]

(or a ale house parmy night your sig is teasing me)

oh man, every time i see heslo's sig i want a schnitzel so bad.

[ANGRYMANR33]

havent been with u guys for a full year yet but it has been a while since the last sau photo shoot do we have a half yearly one

[heslo]

Mwahaha, I love my sig. Definitely could go a snitty some time soon!

That's good news though Nick, don't sell the car though! Don't tell me you are having more troubles with her

[Whiplash]

nothing bad just the usual sevice stuff and a slipping belt (i know i still haven't fixed it), still figuring out what i'm going to do