New Stagea

[silva33]

Hey guys,

I'm very close to trading my GTO in for a Stagea. There are two i am looking at, at dealers, Neo manual etc both have about 70,000km on them, what do you think they are worth as a dealers price? one is $22,000 which is basically just a stock Neo Manual stagea and the other has twin sunroofs central locking keyless and a nice quiet exhaust for $25,000. Both cars are very neat an in very good condition. both Auction grade 4

What do you guys think and is there anthing I should be looking out for inparticular??

Thanks in advance,

Dave

[mitchy_]

this one looks pretty good..

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/t188696.html

[Stinky Rooster]

^^^^

[darrinspencer]

22K for a stock manual sounds fair

What about a S2 manual with approx 400hp and r34 GTR front and wheels and list of mods which cost over $25K

Sell for $30k, pm me. No trade

[stasis]

you should check the prices on Jspec. They are agent for private imports.

[unique1]

Hey guys,

I'm very close to trading my GTO in for a Stagea. There are two i am looking at, at dealers, Neo manual etc both have about 70,000km on them, what do you think they are worth as a dealers price? one is $22,000 which is basically just a stock Neo Manual stagea and the other has twin sunroofs central locking keyless and a nice quiet exhaust for $25,000. Both cars are very neat an in very good condition. both Auction grade 4

What do you guys think and is there anthing I should be looking out for inparticular??

Thanks in advance,

Dave

Hey Dave its Brad here from 3si forums, i got a stagea and they are a great car for smoothness and room, go a manual for sure, the auto is not very fun. They need a bit of work to match the 272awkw of the gto though

good luck in your hunt for one and give me a PM if u need any help with stageas as ive done a fair bit to mine over the last 3 years

[jasevr4]

you should check the prices on Jspec. They are agent for private imports.

Just keep in mind that's not an on road price. You will also need to pay rego, stamp duty, any inspection fees, any labour to make the car standard (to get it registered), and usually tyres.

[_Ryan_]

you should check the prices on Jspec. They are agent for private imports.

recon a s1 260rs is do-able for 25k?

[silva33]

Hey Dave its Brad here from 3si forums, i got a stagea and they are a great car for smoothness and room, go a manual for sure, the auto is not very fun. They need a bit of work to match the 272awkw of the gto though

good luck in your hunt for one and give me a PM if u need any help with stageas as ive done a fair bit to mine over the last 3 years

hey Brad...

I'm really going to miss the zero lag monster GTO but I'm thinking that a manual Stagea will be the best of both worlds. I still have some performance parts from my old R33 so I can just slap them on plus Ill be taking some parts off the GTO before the trade so I'm hoping to have the Stagea with around 250ish rwkw which I think is achievable and still be quite streetable.

I have decided not to go auto as I think ill get bored..

Are the Series 2 manuals sluggish? How do they compare to a stock R34 GTT? I'm not excpecting to much as I'm going to be modding it in the near future. I already have a plan of attack.

I know there is no direct ECU replacement for the Auto's but is there one for the NEO manual??

Thanks

Dave

[Lil_Bobby_260]

recon a s1 260rs is do-able for 25k?

There is an S1 260RS on J-Spec for about 26k, landed and complied.

http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/index.php?ID=11083

"approx 580hp"

Long list of mods but id assume its been 'driven'. A lot.

[_Ryan_]

what have people seen stockers go for?

[Lil_Bobby_260]

Have seen a stock 97 autech on j-spec for 17k but report said "faded paint" and had 140 thou klms. Good car if u wanted to bring one over and repaint it and rebuild the engine to make it your own car and original but not great if you wanted something you could just jump in and expect to clock up 50,000 carefree klms i guess.

[unique1]

Hey Dave for 250awkw u are gonna need a bigger turbo, something like a gt3040r is a good start and capable of 450rwhp or so if u ever want more. I would upgrade the suspension firstly as the stock ride is soft and boaty

I would go a 260rs if u could afford it, but dont buy one if u are in the lower $$$ market of 260rs's or u might end up with a peice of shit. A rs4 manual is still a good buy and comes with the stronger gtr rear end, etc. I thought my rs four was abit sluggish but i went from 350rwhp vl calais to the stagea and it felt smooth but abit slow. I definately feel the extra weight in the stagea when accelerating (unlike the gto) but cornering wise with the stagea and the sydneykid coilovers it handles awesome compared to my gto with tein flex coilovers.

overall the stagea is a great car for the money

Edited October 12, 2007 by unique1

[wolverine]

I know there is no direct ECU replacement for the Auto's but is there one for the NEO manual??

R34 powerFc will work with out of the box but requires a minor wiring modification to get around the PFC's hunt for traction control on the R34 which, unmodified, will throw up an engine check light.

there are numerous other options appearing out there all them discussed in forced induction section.

HKS GT-RS or GCG hi-flow will get you close to or exceed your target hp but consider some tomei 260 deg poncams as they make more power everywhere and well worth the money.

Edited October 12, 2007 by wolverine

[silva33]

Cheers guys,

The dealer am going to happens to have an Autech there but I'm wanting this car to be a comfortable daily not a handful like the GTO.. I really want to get the Autech but I can help myslef and within a few months it would have new turbos, ecu, injectors etc!!! And I just dont know if it is the best car to just jump in and clock up km in.

The way I am looking at it is that the Neo is cheaper and newer (update look and interior) and with the extra cash I can install the performance mods and hopefully have it quicker than a stock Autech and still have money in my pocket. Rememeber I have a few nice performance parts at home from my old Skyline.

I'm quite happy about the PFC working though, does anyone know where you can get them from these days?? I saw Nengun have them advertised but are they still available as the prices looked quite cheap!

It would be bloody nice though!!

Dave

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

The Autech's are very nice to drive as a stocker but when you start throwing the cash at them they become like any other car. Mine has 500rwhp and is a bit of a dog, its still a daily driver though.

[unique1]

The Autech's are very nice to drive as a stocker but when you start throwing the cash at them they become like any other car. Mine has 500rwhp and is a bit of a dog, its still a daily driver though.

haha Ken what makes it abit of a dog? heavy clutch? too noisy? stiff suspension?

i find mine is definately not daily driver material with the twin plate clutch, lumpy cams, noisy exhuast (need another muffler) and stiff suspension is even annoying at times lol.

Dont u love it how when u start modifying that u assume a 500rwhp car could be a nice smooth comfortable daily cruiser without any negative aspects

I love my stagea but it gets abit much at times when u just want to cruise around in comfort and not create shit loads of attention for the wrong reasons haha (for sounding like a hoon)

[silva33]

I will be modifying the stagea... ther only decisions im going to have to make is which turbo and ecu.. Im thinking PFC.. but Im not sure if ill go HKS GTRS or something like a GT30?? What do you guys think?? are the GT30's really laggy? I mean in the Stagea do you really notice the extra lag because they are so heavy?

[webng]

I will be modifying the stagea... ther only decisions im going to have to make is which turbo and ecu.. Im thinking PFC.. but Im not sure if ill go HKS GTRS or something like a GT30?? What do you guys think?? are the GT30's really laggy? I mean in the Stagea do you really notice the extra lag because they are so heavy?

Extra lag has been known to help with fuel consumption around town, so don't let that put you off.

[_Ryan_]

but wouldn't you want the beefier midrange to keep it moving due to the weight? eg GTRS