P Plate Turbo Restrictions

[anfo]

I wasn't saying he was going to drive like an insane bastard just because he's a P plater.

I was saying he was going to drive like an insane bastard because he clearly doesn't care about obeying the requirements that come with holding a license. He doesn't give a f**k about buying a car he's legally allowed to drive, why will he give a f**k about dangerous driving, speeding, or any other safety-related things?

Driving around on a car that you've got no insurance on is uncalled for. Being young and only buying a 2WD Skyline, chances are he's not going to be loaded enough to replace someone else's car or pay their medical bills out of pocket when he crashes.

alright fair enough u had me at "f**k" LOL

[ignuz]

There's some reaaaaaaaaaal cheap 180's around at the moment... lol

[TKR]

you will be arse raped , i got caught driving my cuzzin silvia lost 4 points and 900 ish fine,

it sucks but oh well dont risk it it ant worth it lol

[gt-ahhh!]

why has no one mentioned the possibility of gaining an exception to the prohibited vehicle law? the obvious way out is to register the car in the name of a legal driver ie: your dad. and then claiming its the family car and you have no choice but to drive it! there is even an exception form you can download on the rta website.

the prohibited vehicle law is an absolute joke. why?

a) you dont need a turbo or a v8 to drive dangerously

b) its a denial of a basic human right to have a nice car

c) people who have no regard for speed limits will also have no regard for prohibited vehicle laws.

has this law made a difference to the road toll? methinks not.

the only problem you have is insurance. because if you crash its all over.

ive only ever been pulled over in my skyline for 220+ on the fwy, and when i did a "burnout" which the cops didnt even see. needless to say i got off both, the 220+ incident wasnt on radar. i also got away with not displaying p plates back in the day when i was driving mums car. the system is a joke.

where are you guys driving when you get defected and stuff? ive never even been pulled over for an rbt...

[evil_weevil]

why has no one mentioned the possibility of gaining an exception to the prohibited vehicle law? the obvious way out is to register the car in the name of a legal driver ie: your dad. and then claiming its the family car and you have no choice but to drive it! there is even an exception form you can download on the rta website.

the prohibited vehicle law is an absolute joke. why?

a) you dont need a turbo or a v8 to drive dangerously

b) its a denial of a basic human right to have a nice car

c) people who have no regard for speed limits will also have no regard for prohibited vehicle laws.

has this law made a difference to the road toll? methinks not.

the only problem you have is insurance. because if you crash its all over.

ive only ever been pulled over in my skyline for 220+ on the fwy, and when i did a "burnout" which the cops didnt even see. needless to say i got off both, the 220+ incident wasnt on radar. i also got away with not displaying p plates back in the day when i was driving mums car. the system is a joke.

where are you guys driving when you get defected and stuff? ive never even been pulled over for an rbt...

Ok,

Admitting doing 220+ here is bloody stupid. Obviously you are one of the people who have no respect for the law either. You are just as bad as the people driving on banned vehicles.

Yes, There are ways around the banned vehicles list, is it that easy to get that past them?

Dont know.

Yes, in any car you can drive like a tool bag, speed, etc etc however you have just proved by your post saying...

"c) people who have no regard for speed limits will also have no regard for prohibited vehicle laws."

So you have put yourself in that group of moron drivers.

The only problem is if you have insurance...

Obviously you wouldbe driving illegally so either way you a screwed.

Seriously,

Thats the law, get used to it.

You cannot shop lift right?

Thats the law also...so how is driving or trying to get away with driving banned vehicle ok?

I'll say one last thing on this topic, and I agree with Alan - scathing - I hope you do not hit anyone and injure them, as you'll be ass reamed for a very long time after.

Time for this thread to be locked me thinks?

[d00dz]

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Exemptions from the conditions

Application for an exemption can be made at any motor registry upon payment of a fee. See related link to Licensing fees (above right). You must have an exemption in writing issued by the RTA to be exempt from the conditions.

Should an exemption be granted, the exemption will be limited to specific circumstances such as employment and maybe limited to certain vehicles. There is no blanket exemption.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/downlo...itions_dl1.html

You are let off because there are varying range of police officers out there. Sometimes you will catch them on a good day, some days you wont. It's just luck, but I wouldn't wanna drive and be stuck in the situation of driving a restricted car. Hell, selling drugs is prohibited yet people still do it.

[br3tt]

I heard that if your family has ANY other vehicle that isn't turboed or a v8 they deny the exemption, no matter what the reason.

My dad has a GTST, but he also has a cressida and a hilux ute, so I'd get denied straight away because those cars are available to me.

[gt-ahhh!]

Ok, admitting doing 220+ here is bloody stupid. Obviously you are one of the people who have no respect for the law either. You are just as bad as the people driving on banned vehicles.

Yes, in any car you can drive like a tool bag, speed, etc etc however you have just proved by your post saying...

So you have put yourself in that group of moron drivers.

Seriously,

Thats the law, get used to it.

You cannot shop lift right?

Thats the law also...so how is driving or trying to get away with driving banned vehicle ok?

for a start, i would suggest that 220+ is a lot worse, not just as bad as, driving a prohibited vehicle, which is a victimless crime. the act of driving a turbocharged car does not directly endanger anyone. but then again, neither does 220+ at 3am when theres no one in sight. shoplifting is totally different as it directly affects a victim/s, whereas speeding etc only has the potential to do that.

im not really as bad a person as you make out. you cant tell me that the majority of skyline owners have never speedtested their cars. i would bet that you yourself have exceeded 160 at least once in your time. if you havent, i admire your self-control. at least i chose to do it at a (relatively) safe time and location. and it was a one-off. i totally agree thats its foolish and could have disastrous consequences, but i believe much more dangerous acts would include weaving and talking on a phone while doing so (which seems socially acceptable), and drink driving. incidentally, i do neither of these things. ever.

laws such as the prohibited vehicle rubbish are just knee-jerk reactions from the nsw gov to make it appear as though they are doing something about "hoons". when the reality is some young men have always and will always feel the urge to drive maniacally and nothing short of mass castration can be done to prevent it. its just unfortunate that it can destroy their lives and the lives of others.

and i should know, 7 people have died on my street in the last 3 years.

[ignuz]

for a start, i would suggest that 220+ is a lot worse, not just as bad as, driving a prohibited vehicle, which is a victimless crime. the act of driving a turbocharged car does not directly endanger anyone. but then again, neither does 220+ at 3am when theres no one in sight. shoplifting is totally different as it directly affects a victim/s, whereas speeding etc only has the potential to do that.

im not really as bad a person as you make out. you cant tell me that the majority of skyline owners have never speedtested their cars. i would bet that you yourself have exceeded 160 at least once in your time. if you havent, i admire your self-control. at least i chose to do it at a (relatively) safe time and location. and it was a one-off. i totally agree thats its foolish and could have disastrous consequences, but i believe much more dangerous acts would include weaving and talking on a phone while doing so (which seems socially acceptable), and drink driving. incidentally, i do neither of these things. ever.

laws such as the prohibited vehicle rubbish are just knee-jerk reactions from the nsw gov to make it appear as though they are doing something about "hoons". when the reality is some young men have always and will always feel the urge to drive maniacally and nothing short of mass castration can be done to prevent it. its just unfortunate that it can destroy their lives and the lives of others.

and i should know, 7 people have died on my street in the last 3 years.

Indeed..

People are always going to whinge about giving skyline's a bad name.

To the average joe we look like hoons 90% of the time even if we're just cruising.

That comes with the import/car scene in general and it will always be there..

The main reason people get iffy about stories, whether they're short or small about speeding etc is because SAU has a mature reputation amongst the car community and people would like to see that positive image of our forums grow. Any little snippets where people start talking about dragging cars off the lights ( even to the speed limit) starts to eat into SAU again..

So by all means PM and talk in real life to your mates etc about what you do but try to leave it off the forums..

That or give us a section with no rules/moderators etc that needs a varying password to gain access to and you can only get access to it via speaking directly with some executive of SAU where anything goes..

Or not lol

Oh and I'm still not sure whether I'll buy a turbo car under these restrictions.. Yes it is the law, but it's a piss poor job of managing to death toll. There has been more deaths since the introduction of these laws..

[evil_weevil]

Ok,

where do I begin?

As I said, posting that you have done 220 + on forums, esp a club forum is not good. We do not like that here on club forums, simple. It gives the rest of us members who do the right thing a bad name - sum that up - dont talk about it on public club forums.

And yes, you are right about talking on phones whilist driving, drink driving, people who shouldnt even have a licence are just as bad and happen alot more.

Just today, car next to me (Im in middle lane, him in left) went to grab something from the passenger seat, what does he do? Not concentrating and straight into my lane. I hit brakes and horn and he gives me a death stare as though it was my fault!!!

My comments about shop lifting and driving a prohibited vehicle are stating that both are the law, you,me, everyone needs to obey them, simple.

I have mixed feelings over the p plate law, I do feel sorry for the kids who do the right thing (who have been involved in motorsport/karts before they could legally drive) however again, its the law, everyones got to get used to it.

[scathing]

because SAU has a mature reputation amongst the car community

Does it?

This is the only forum I'm on (and I'm on a few) that gets "school holiday shit stirrers", or lots of people talking about how they did XYZ on public roads.

That said, I'm not on ns.com.

[gt-ahhh!]

yeah i see what youre getting at. it is in no ones interests to highlight the already bad rep that skylines and imports have in general. we certainly dont need the pol pol setting up more defect stations.

im still fairly new to this whole forum thing, so pardon me just this once haha. i find skyline fans fascinating though. theres the whole spectrum ranging from hardcore street racers to R31 drivers...

commonwhore drivers are the worst imo.

if you took off from the lights but only went up to the speed limit, is that street racing? ive heard there is some bizarre law about "unnecessary show of speed" or some crap.

[scathing]

if you took off from the lights but only went up to the speed limit, is that street racing? ive heard there is some bizarre law about "unnecessary show of speed" or some crap.

Its not bizarre. A "race" is, by definition, a contest. The speed and acceleration you achieve is irrelevant.

If two of you take off.....that's a contest. Do it on a public road, and you just perfectly fit the description of a "street race".

If you're by yourself and you punch it at a set of lights to the speed limit, you're probably less likely to get done...but there's probably another road rule they can get you for.