Just Got A Epa

[cln]

if you pass with a pfc or any aftermarket management system your VERY VERY lucky. They took my kickpanel off etc to make sure i was running the stock ecu, checked my injectors and so on so forth.

[Jetdat]

*sigh*.... some people jus dont get it... when you go have an EPA test at McCloud, they do an EMMISIONS TEST there and then! they messsure the carbon monoxide (correct me if im wrong on the what they test for) levels in parts per million (PPM) and deem if it passes or not....

now to go a bit further in detials for those who are extra thick:

i am extra thick, well thats what i been told anyways

[SKYHY]

i am extra thick, well thats what i been told anyways

you are very very lucky to pass a epa test with mods, you might pass the noise test and emission test how are you going to pass the engine bay examiantion, the EPA dudes are all mechaines. they might let you off if you just have high flow injectors but im pretty sure if you had GT3076r, z32 AFM, 740cc injectors, 4inch intake pipe with a pod, intercooler and many other things they will just tell you to get f**ked lol

[Jetdat]

you are very very lucky to pass a epa test with mods, you might pass the noise test and emission test how are you going to pass the engine bay examiantion, the EPA dudes are all mechaines. they might let you off if you just have high flow injectors but im pretty sure if you had GT3076r, z32 AFM, 740cc injectors, 4inch intake pipe with a pod, intercooler and many other things they will just tell you to get f**ked lol

i think you replied to the wrong person, i never said i passed with mods...

skywhine has been arguing that point

[SKYHY]

i think you replied to the wrong person, i never said i passed with mods...

skywhine has been arguing that point

lol looks like it hehe

[Ant97GTR]

*sigh*.... some people jus dont get it... when you go have an EPA test at McCloud, they do an EMMISIONS TEST there and then! they messsure the carbon monoxide (correct me if im wrong on the what they test for) levels in parts per million (PPM) and deem if it passes or not....

now to go a bit further in detials for those who are extra thick:

lets say purely for arguments sake that a standard RB25DET running on 7 pounds produces 100PPM carbon monoxide standard on a stock standard shit fuel ready 16:1 AFR map.

now that safe level u have to stay under is 100PPM, if u have a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, plenium even more boost as long as u stay under the 100ppm ur safe, now the way to do this is to have your car custom tuned, when cars are tuned they make more power and use less petrol because they run better AFR's (and a few other things; spark timing etc), instead of running a 16:1 shit fuel ready bomb tune, they will adjust so u run something a bit closer to 14.7:1 which is the optimum level... now since you now run a leaner AFR the amount of carbon u spit out the exhaust will be less, hence how people with half a brain pass modified cars....

Why do people who have no experience taking a skyline or turbo'ed import down to Mcleod insist on giving advice

SKYHY....I can assure you because I have been through this very process as well as knowing ADR's and Vicroads/EPA guidelines on car mods like the back of my hand, that they don't just do an emissions test. First up they have a visual inspection of things like your ecu, turbo, intercoolers, emissions gear like afm/carbon canisters etc, exhaust system, fuel rail/injectors, air box/pod, boost control and fuel pressure reg. You MIGHT be able to get through with some aftermarket inj and stuff because some of them look stock....the same with OEM style turbos. However I can assure you they know what a PFC looks like and they even check whether your std computer has been opened and hence chipped. Assuming you get through that they then do an emissions check and then finally take you to the open area for a noise test.

As for the emissions level, they will pass you if you are over as long as all the aforementioned stock gear is there...why.....because as a car ages it produces more emissions than it did when it was new because things like the cats ability to absorb emissions reduces over time and engines get 'dirtier' as they age. However if you are over by a big margin they might start asking questions.

Basically read through the EPA sticky thread and listen to the advise given by people like Ash (R31Nismoid) as he knows the rules inside and out

[skiwhine]

lol there job is not 2 check for modifications...

they are not the "bigger turbo police" or the "injector inspectors"

they are the EPA - Environmental Protection Agency

there job is to protect the environment, by making making sure u aint making either noise polution or emmisions pollution... if your car is modified and still complies it will pass, put a standard air box n zorst on, make sure it aint running rich and put the catch can in the shed for a bit...

and my chipped ECU was fine, was lying on the passenger floor at the time, wid a big shiny "custom chipped by Electronic Automotive sticker on it" and i also had 1 on the back window aswell as a sticker with "James Race Engines". and i had extra wires hanging out the ECU for extra knock sensors... so please stop with the shit that u cant have a modified this and that... you dont know what your on about and ur filling peoples heads with crap....

take my old car for instance... big cam V8 wid high compression, bigger injectors, bigger throttle body etc... how is that supposed 2 pass EPA with out a remapped computer? should i strip the engine down n return it 2 standard? ...yea right. would have been less effort to sell the car, think about it, there would be 200 cars a week in the paper wit no rego for sale because of not passing EPA.... it jus doesnt make sense... and thing that dont make sense usually just aint true - Judge Judy

[R31Nismoid]

skwhine you have no idea, its as simple as that really. If you dont know what your talking about, pipe down.

"The EPA"

1. Their job is to check for Modifications that surround the emissions. That includes injectors/ECU's/O2 sensors and so on.

2. TUNEABLE ECU - is illegal. There is nothing to stop you changing the tune as you drive out. Therefore PFC's are illegal

3. The EPA know the colour of factory injectors for RB25's/RB30et's etc, non-factory injectors means a bigger ECU... illegal

4. A larger turbo flows more air/boost etc. And alteres emissions, they are also... illegal

How would i know they are illegal?

- The information/laws clearly say so

- Time and time again people have been failed for them (including myself)

See this thread. The EPA Guidelines are clear as a cloudless sky.

If you were 'lucky' 'once' to get passed in a car that has nothing to do with the one in question, so be it, we dont care.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/t156269.html

No more need for this as its all attainable information from the EPA.