Need some help urgently

[32_ENVY]

Hey all

Look I am really sorry to do this but I have a friend. We have been best friends for about going on 8 years. He told me last week that he tried to kill himself. I know he isnt lying to me. Is there anyone out there who has either 1)Been through this, or

2)Knows of some good help in Melbourne that maybe I can take him to

I am seriously worried about him. Please PM me if you need more info on this subject because there is quite a lot

Thanks for your time

Dave

[chopobo]

you gotta get him on the phone and spend some time talking to him

i got a friend in a similar situation

its frustrating trying to get thru to them

tip: don't use jet as a negotiator

[inark]

dont use JET at anything that requires tact or compassion

haha jet u know i love u

on a serious note... i would honestly try and coax him into getting psychiatric help... i know a couple of ppl that went thru this and it took me a while but in the end they went and got the help and now are much happier and know how much more pain there actions would cause.

[Raza]

well thats sad to hear.

ive had 1 freind who hung himself

another who killed himself with heaps of druz

and another who tryed to kill himself.because he thought every 1 was trying to kill him. but his mother had him commited to hospial.

and now he is fine.

try and talk to his parents. thats the best step. i think

[Guest RedLineGTR]

Take some time out, either over some food or go for a cruise with him stop somewhere quite and talk to him, i know from experience with friends etc. This should help, start talking about some bad things that may be happening in your life if any at the moment usally it helps for him to open up to you.

[Raza]

if it is drug induced psychosis he needs medical help.

thats wot 1 of my freinds had.

[Guest RedLineGTR]

if he hasent been like this before then you should be able to sort it out but, talking properly always helps...there is so much stuff in life that can get you down and make you think to seriously about thing..people friends, parents, girls, work etc...

[32_ENVY]

Jet knows this guy, we are round there every friday night

He is an Alcholic and he has admitted that. I have told him a tiny bit of what i have been through, but im not going to let him know everything coz he will prolly kill himself. RAZA, it aint drug induced.

[predator]

erk, there is crisis line or something, but generally the person has to ring in themselves.. i know that can be hard to convince somebody to do that...

if its really serious there is a crisis response team or something that can take you into hospital, but again, they have to accept they have a problem and admit themselves.

[predator]

best of luck!! i know both sides .. anyway, try and get him to talk about it with somebody.

all people react differently.. maybe he'll feel happier talking to friends, or maybe he will feel happier talking to a stranger, or maybe not talking at all..

I'd track down a number and leave it for him dude, but try not to make it look like "hey man, i dun wanna deal with it..speak to these people instead" (i know its not like that..but when you're ****ed up it can seem like that)..

i guess thats all i can say.. none of us our professionals in that area, so best to get somebody who deals with it every day. Its a complex area thats 4 sure..

[32_ENVY]

cheers guys

any more info would be grate

[Horus]

find a good shrink who specializes in adolescents....they are usually the best for this sort of thing

[sniffy]

its prob depression....everyone is different but attemped suicide is generally a call for help. if i was going to kill myself i would, or at least put myself in hospital for ages. from my experiences, first thing i would do is look into this alco problem. at least slow it down.

next thing to do is to get him to see a future for himself, one where it is possible for him to be happy in...no harm in trying, right?

life is short enough as it is...may aswell enjoy it.

i wouldnt sugest informing parents or getting onto docs straight away, to me that would just make him feel less of himself(which could be the prob)...but i dont know the sorce of his problem, so im only guessing

if anything...just be yourself...be a mate and im sure he'll know he will only be losing out if he goes.

[Guest terrance]

you should make him happy. happy enough that he wont want to kill himself.

[R31Nismoid]

happy?

what a stoopid comment.

Look. my Dad killed himself last year ok. I found him etc etc.

some real ****ed up shit.

This went on for over 18months, i moved in with him etc. etc.

but by that stage it was too late.

1st.

You get in early. I'ts only a week ago he says? good. it's still fresh and stuff. It was 4 months befrore i could get to live with him.

2nd

****in make sure your there for him man. It sure as hell ain't easy. But you gotta get him to let it all out etc.etc.

Even if nothing is said, that's cool.

But there are signs. One is a change in the eyes.

This can happen before someone 'tries' something. I saw it in my dads eyes but didn't realise what it meant till it was too late. The eyes go glassy and stuff. you'll just know i guess.

3rd

Shrinks are good... but at the end of the day... (don't mean to sounds negative) if some people are beyond help. My dad was like that. 18 months of different shrinks didn't help in the end.

4th

make sure you let it out too bro. It'll no doubt be having an affect on you too, always does do that.

hope that help ya out man.

ash

[SKY031]

Originally posted by sniffy

its prob depression....everyone is different but attemped suicide is generally a call for help.  

Depression goes without saying.

People who are content don't try to end thier life.

Don't be frightened to approach the subject with your friend...

he needs to know that you care, and that you're interested in what is happening with him and what he's going through.

Show him some positives, give him something to hold on to that will make his life worth living.

Guys seem to have trouble when it comes to 'emotional' stuff, and would prefer to drink (or find a similarly destructive pastime) to escape from reality instead of deal with problems.

Things like this need to be discussed rather than brushed under the carpet, because just when you think it's all better, it can get worse; much, much worse.

Keep the lines of communication open.

And don't try and take this all on your own shoulders, you really need a support network.

~K

and Ash, that's a big weight for you to carry.

You know that you have a lot of people who care about you and who are happy to listen if you need to talk.

[Guest terrance]

Originally posted by R31Nismoid

happy?

what a stoopid comment

yeah, happy. happy people dont kill themselves and they dont kill other people. didnt you watch legally blonde?

anyway, do u know why did your dad kill himself? (legitimate question)

[sniffy]

um...dude, maybe not a good question tho...some things are better left alone

[Guest terrance]

i dunno. he brought it up. maybe he wants to talk about it.

[bryanlee38]

32_envy sorry to hear bout this. Hope everything works on, something simiar occured to a close relation of mine. My philospohy was to make the person as happy as possible, where it may be buying a present, or bringing them to places they enjoy. Allow them to reflect on events which cheers them up, teens with depression tend to ponder and think alot - just basic reflecting on life. If you give them stimulus like presents, they will reflect more on that.

What I did, was purchase a puppy - it worked for my scenerio. You could try that. Pets does wonders - gives the person a unlimited source of entertainment and reflect on how precious life is. Hope this helps. All the best.

regards

bryanlee38

ps: terrance, what r u tryin to instigate here?