Alternatives To Power Fc

[dano4127]

if your not going PFC (which i think is the best option for many reasons)

Link FTW!

[Kaido_RR]

the tomie reytec is a great ecu but they do not make it for the r33 gts-t only gtr. you can use the gtr one but it does requirer some playing around.

if you can find someone to tune it get the greddy emanage ulimate great ecu and best bang for bucks ecu atm.

dont go pfc, for the style reason it was such good because it was only $900, now prices are upwards of $1200 it no longer has it bang for bucks appeal, and it is dated ecu, much better systems out there for similar price

Edited October 19, 2007 by [Michael]

[seraphyn_r33]

Ahk fair enough, ive heard some pretty bad things about the greddy emanage, but a few people have said that the ultimate is a lot better bit of gear?

At this stage im still leaning towards a pfc if i can find one for the right price, im definitely not willing to pay over 1k for one, even though its getting harder and harder to find one at that price.

[33_skyline]

The Autronic SM4 will do whatever you want, it's up there with Motec and Haltech if the tuner knows what they are doing. One of the peculiarities of the SM4 is that you need to get a custom trigger disc installed into your crank angle sensor (someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think that's the terminology). From my recent reading, it appears to be a very capable unit. Especially if your tuner can use the auto-tune feature. But again, a lot less people have experience with this than the Haltech, which is similarly priced and has very similar features.

Seriously, ECU is one of the times you DON'T want to try being different just for the sake of it. I know it's been said a bajillion times, but go with whatever your trusted mechanic/tuner likes to use.

You would be correct with the trigger disk into the crank angle sensor.

I am running a SM4 in my car and it is brilliant does everything, and I have a guy who can tune it where I live.

The SM4 also has a electonic boost controller (this is about an extra $200 - $300 dolllars),

The auto tune feature is brilliant as you type in you air fuel ratio you want to achieve and go driving, the ecu will do the rest.

(though you do need someone to tune it as there is a little more to it with the fuel value table and temp table).

Draconis go to here and ring one of the dealers and have a chat.AUTRONIC

I recommed Ray Hall for information cause he sells these world wide.

[charlie25T]

EMS STINGER.... TRY THAT

IT BETTER THAN THE PFC

[Draconis]

Thanks guys. I went over this a year back and was getting ready for a PFC but then when I got down to it, it's price increased greatly over here and they are incredibly hard to find. And those who do have it, will charge quite a bit... even with my contacts... they cant help me. So I've been looking for an alternative, a friend told me about the autrontic and read up on some threads. Actually this thread has given me more choices than I thought. I am not trying to be different... I know that much when it comes to ECUs, but I'm trying to find something that is good and has a good track record. And When it comes to the RB engines, it's either the Japanese or the Aussies who know what's going on. Very few here in the States fully understand everything about it... and those who do are in a different state... damn... I wish I didnt move from that state.

[S04R3R]

Haltech or wolf 3D

[R33silverS2]

after much deliberation of my own, Finally got myself a pfc! yay! from japan, thanks to a link in paulr33's sig. Car already feels better and it hasn't even been tuned yet just running on the base map it comes with, can't wait to get it tuned on wed, and feel the better response and midrange - silky smooth power curve mmmmm....

[luke gtr]

the only down side to a pfc, is it cant control knock. from the article, the eprom and reytec can. difference between these 2(from article) is you can keep programming the reytec without replacing the eprom all the time. anyone feel free to correct me if im wrong. thats just my understanding...

as for myself, depending on the specs of reytec, injector drivers and such, i will be looking at haltec or motec. pricy, but very tunable.

in the end, it all comes down to how far you will end up taking the car, how much protection you want(knock control), and how much youre willing to spend. hope this has helped.

[luke gtr]

just started to read up on reytec, sounds promising(SOUNDS). no airflow meter, but the downside, no 02 sensor??

ill try and paste a link(never done this before http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003web-catalogu...dex-reytec.html

see if this works...