7:38 Time Confirmed

[m3gtr]

cant really close this thread now can we? not with all the publicity surrounding the GTR...

[dineth]

I dont know what all these CON bussiness is about, im not too familiar with the Ring, but i doubt Nissan would do a 'dodgy' and promote it for the whole world to see specially with so much scrutiny and people anticipating the launch of the GTR, i think someone wanted to know the comparisons between the V8 super cars and the new GTR:

Nissan GT-R

Performance: 0-100km/h 3.7secs, 308km/h top speed

Price: $120,000 (estimated)

VS:

V8 Supercar: 3.8 secs (Ford Team Vodafone), 4.0 secs (Holden Toll Racing), from $400,000-$500,000

and yes i know this isn't a very fair comparison, but still gives you an idea of the GTR's potential. Keep in mind that the GTR is a road car with all the trimmings (which add weight)

If only they would change the rules again in Bathurst again it would be like the early 1990's all over again, but im sure the 'the pack of assholes' might have something to say about that

[sh@un]

not a chance

V8 taxicars are here to stay as they are 'till kingdom come

in all their 5 litre, pushrod, live-axle glory

(notice how much [the Fords in particular] don't even remotely resemble the road cars mechanically anymore...hmmm)

[700HP-GTR33]

Back to the topic guys......leave the guy alone.

He made a mistake......

He should apologize for this and move on...at least that is what I would do...

Silence is assumed to be a poor trait amongst men.

It is fine for women though

Enough said

[Duncan]

actually its the bommodores that are less like production spec, they run ford rear diff and ford front suspension (wishbones) instead of the bommadore struts. But I think we have picked on the poor misguided foo' enough already, right?

[iplen]

Lets also not forget that despite the fact that the Taxis are pretty much sports sedans now the race record for the Bathurst 1000 is still held by the GroupA (Damn near factory compared to V8 Camiras, I mean Supercars) GTR... and before anyone thinks they did a dodgy here too, (because of course Holden and Ford would never pay Cams to fix a series) the race where they set the record WAS NOT the rain shortended one and did include the Chase.

And now, 16 years on the Taxis are still not as quick as a production GTR.. (yes I am sure that a lap of Bathurst by a stock GTR would be slower than a Taxi, but lets see it in racing trim)

[R32zilla]

back to the 7:38 posted....

Reading Wheels this month they state that the 911 GT2 has now posted a 7:32 in response to the GTR's time....

damn those germans!

Edited October 27, 2007 by R32zilla

[dan_the_man]

somebody must have mentioned the war

[dan.1337]

back to the 7:38 posted....

Reading Wheels this month they state that the 911 GT2 has now posted a 7:32 in response to the GTR's time....

damn those germans!

i don't think the GTR was built to beat the GT2's time, but just wait till the v-spec/nur/evo version is released...........

[Forged]

i don't think the GTR was built to beat the GT2's time, but just wait till the v-spec/nur/evo version is released...........

Agreed. The entry model R35GTR is really aimed at the luxury equiped 911 Turbo not the GT3 or GT2. But R35 GTR N1 anyone?

[funkymonkey]

Wheels' finger on the pulse is comparable to a mortician.

that "response to the GT-R's time" set by the GT2 was back in August, well before Nissan's lap time was set. The GT-R set out to take on the 911 Turbo's time, and it did it, but then it was suggested that they might gun for the GT2's time seeing as they were so close to it... would have been a bonus, but not the point of the exercise.

Goddamn Wheels is like the Today Tonight or Current Affair of motoring journalism... sensationalist badly researched garbage.

[R32zilla]

I went to a 911 forum....its all very quiet there ...like they are ignoring the fact that the GTR was released...

[sewid]

Goddamn Wheels is like the Today Tonight or Current Affair of motoring journalism... sensationalist badly researched garbage.

Australian motoring "journalism" has been this way for years and will continue to be this way. It's the "bare minimum" approach to research whereby rumours are treated as facts and opinions are reality.

[Lunatikk]

What I'm personally really waiting for is to see the new car in tarmac events Like Targa Tassie, maybe even with some official Factory support to match Subaru's effort etc. Wonder what it would take to get Jimmy outa the Porka............

[monaroCountry]

Suspicion conformed..............

Direct from the GTR chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno

"We used cut slick tyres' said Mizuno."

RE: TOKYO 2007: THE SKY'S THE LIMIT

[fieds83]

Suspicion conformed..............

Direct from the GTR chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno

RE: TOKYO 2007: THE SKY'S THE LIMIT

Those words were selected carefully from the true comment below. The above comment is false.

"Mizuno claimed a time of 7minutes 38 seconds, compared with 7:43 for a Porsche 911 GT3 and 7:32 for a Carrera GT, but he was anxious to point out that there had been "two wet patches on the circuit." Indeed, he mentioned the "wet patches" so many times that you wondered why Nissan simply hadn't waited for a dry day. Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man."

Edited October 28, 2007 by fieds83

[monaroCountry]

Those words were selected carefully from the true comment below. The above comment is false.

"Mizuno claimed a time of 7minutes 38 seconds, compared with 7:43 for a Porsche 911 GT3 and 7:32 for a Carrera GT, but he was anxious to point out that there had been "two wet patches on the circuit." Indeed, he mentioned the "wet patches" so many times that you wondered why Nissan simply hadn't waited for a dry day. Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man."

Link please

[fieds83]

View link for full article

http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/3620

[monaroCountry]

Two different quotes and two different interpretations.

Now if you believe that using cut slicks would enable the GTR into the 7:30 then your dreaming.

We shall see when the first production GTR actually tries to tackle the ring, whether or not its as fast as the CGT.

7:27.82 167.201 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg

7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg

7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg

7:32.18 - 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg

7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg

7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg

[Marco-R34GTT]

somebody must have mentioned the war

SSSHHHHHHH!!!! Don't mention the war!