Has The New Gtr Killed The Modding Scene?

[lingeringsoul]

After reading pages after pages of technical information on the engine, transmission, aerodynamic, suspension, electrics etc etc, it seems that the fine engineers at Nissan have covered every base. You have an insanely fast car thats capable of cruising at 300km/h at the same time, quiet enough to hold a conversation (dont' know why you would at that speed). It has a great set of suspension that can handle any condition with ease. The engine is up there with all the other supercars in the world. Overall, they seemed to have put together a perfect package that's going to be hard to improve upon, any alternation is more likely to disturb the balance of the car.

It seems there's nothing left to mod and if there is anything left to mod, it would be very expensive. The exhaust mods would cost twice as much now that there's two. Changing the turbos would be even more costly, as the manifold is now actually built into the turbo. Any change in the turbo would require a replacement manifold as well. That two of everything again. Going big singles is......quite impossible?? considering the turbos are now on both sides of the car. With so much electronics in the suspension, is it going to have any improvements if you change it to a more harder coilover for example? How will the electronic system adapt to that? I'm also sure many have thought about aftermarket kit designs to make the car look more aggresive. Having read some of the pretty picture Nissan put up about the aerodynamics of the body panels, how will aftermarket parts affect that.

I almost forgot to mention the wheels. The wheels are 20" in diameter with run flats which means you don't need a spare in the boot. With a wheel size this big, most 18-19" aftermarket wheels will fit but most likely won't look as good going down a size. The tyres themselves is a problem when it comes to doing any modification. Any tyres you get will have to be in 20" rubber and if you are going on the safe side, you'd want run flats as well. I don't think its going to be cheap getting 20" tyres.

Will the new GTR going to have that much tuning potential left after Nissan doing such a thorough job of it? Will it end up being like a run of the mill supercars you see on the streets? Or will the crazy Japanese tuners come up with more crazy ideas?

[ras1983]

I'm sure many people felt the same way when the R32 was released back in 1989. But they found ways to improve it.

At the very least, there will be people who will want their GTR to do 10 second 1/4 miles (and some will want 9's, maybe 8's). Thats how the aftermarket gets started.

[Bumblebee]

ok we'll u have some good points there but it only makes 353kw. as for turbo upgrades... most ppl change manifolds anyway!

and it is a 3.8lt so u could go for a pair of pretty big turbos and not worry too much about lag. the exhaust will be expensive coz theres 2 of them??? lol 300zx's also run twins.. big deal

If u can afford to buy a gtr then u can afford to modify it with ease. twin exhaust isnt that expensive anyway.

most ppl wouldnt touch the suspension as its low enough as well as hard enough for anything u throw at it including circuit work because thats where it was tweaked.

Rubber... well it runs 20's and the wheels are gorgeous.. so why bother changin those.

If your going to race it then u could improve every aspect of the car.

[funkymonkey]

for starters that bonnet and exhaust needs to be changed with better lightweight stuff. full titanium exhausts are already being developed.

then there's the bodykits... from what I've read a whole heap of potential owners would prefer the front bumper style of the Proto over the production model.

Not to mention guys who wanna develop stroker kits and people who want more power.

besides... emissions compliance is for people who like warranties... i'm sure once you rip out half the shit in that car which allows it to meet the gay American emissions standards you'd have a car that breathes a lot better.

[Kaido_RR]

i would like to know what boost it run std; and what effect increase in power will have on the gearbox and what is the max level it cant handle before it shits itself

[Wink]

I bet Rays have some special 20" TE37s being made up.

Anyway if you can buy Gembella, Alpina, RUF etc parts for European performance cars I don't see why the GTR will be un-moddable.

Mod parts will definitely cost more though but as Bumblebee said "If u can afford to buy a gtr then u can afford to modify it with ease."

[racsov500]

its just like with the old gtrs, just rip the shit out and replace it with a metal bar (hicas for example)

[gdz34]

dont quote me but sure I've seen .7 bar reported for R35. Normal manufacturer conservative approach to boost pressure for reliability etc.

[Duncan]

yeah .7 is what I heard too, same as the 32 was. So double that for a start I hope they were nice enough to mark the hose with the restrictor in it again lol

[n15m0]

can't wait to see Veilsides new kit for the GTR

[RSC41]

And lets not forget about our fine friends at nismo, im sure theyre already going over it.

[Angus Smart]

I'm 100% sure there will be a big after market following with this car, nissan, nismo make alot of money from that i'm sure they wont hold out on aftermarket upgrades

[SilverECR33]

  RSC41 said:

And lets not forget about our fine friends at nismo, im sure theyre already going over it.

I agree, they probably are getting theirs dropped off at the workshop as we speak

[Wink]

  RSC41 said:

And lets not forget about our fine friends at nismo, im sure theyre already going over it.

  silverbulletR33 said:

I agree, they probably are getting theirs dropped off at the workshop as we speak

:sorcerer:

Nismo will have something for us at the festival I'm sure!

[Duncan]

you can be sure nismo have been involved in the car for years. even HSV work along side holden on new bommodores.

but remember when the 32 first came out it was all mild looks and mods at first. It took almost 15 years before a t04z was the must have accessory for your gtr.

[NISMO]

There's people out there who mod, Ferrari's, Porches and Lambos in increasing numbers, so why would the GTR be any different. If you have 150k to drop on a GTR, then you have the $$'s for mods.

Wheels shouldn't be a problem as RAYS make many 19",20" inch wheels already.

[Jpower]

It is too soon to call.

Wait for the N1 version of the GTR and then we can all just STFU!

I am sure Nismo will release there version which will just kick it off BIG TIME. The race to mod one will be on with all the Japanese workshops probably already ordered a few to tweak.

[SilverECR33]

I wonder how much wieght they can rip out of it. When I think about it, even ripping out all the Luxuries it still would be heavier than a R33 in stock trim. Theres gotta be some things really causing the massive weight.

I wonder how much that dsg box weighs.

[DoNNo]

Is there any specs on the turbos yet? like are they steel wheel? ball bearing? i hope they are not ceramic wheeled or nylon coated

Edited October 29, 2007 by DoNNo

[benny2498]

First mods that i would look at (please god one day...) would be weight reduction CF body components and the like. Im sure once it gets into touring car racing there will be a whole bunch of race tested mods that will filter through into the general market.