Stack Dash

[phunky_monkey]

Hey all,

Anyone have any experience with Stack or MXL dashes?

I'm tossing up between an MXL Pista and a ST8130 STACK. There's a fair price difference, but there's also a fair difference in functionality.

Cheers

Dane

[Beer Baron]

Get the defi sports cluster! very nice.

pretty good value too, I would say quite a bit cheaper than the stack or MXL dashes:

lot's of cool features and of course logging capability.

[32GTRVSPECII]

Defi, how much? how hard to install? R32 GTR? Other cars?

Cheers, mick

Edited November 13, 2007 by 32GTRVSPECII

[Beer Baron]

about $2500. it's universal.

[Mr. Keets]

I havent seen that on the Defi site, has it been released yet Richard?

[phunky_monkey]

I had a quote of $2800 for the Defi. It's pretty damn schmick, but a touch pricey... having said that, the Pista is looking to be around $2500 optioned up with boost sensor etc, and the STACK is $1600 +$500 or so for timing gear, plus having to buy a boost guage... so not a lot of difference.

Technically you can't purchase the Defi outside of Japan, as it is supposed to be installed by Defi and Defi only. Have a contact to get one, but it's pricey. Wanna pick me up one in Japan Richard?

Also, the track mapping doesn't work outside of Japan, which is a shame.

[Mr. Keets]

2,800 ouch. But if you add up the cost it's probaly a nice christmas present

+ comprehensive array of guage$ you wont need

+ getting rid of the cluter

+ hard corey feel

= reasonable value

does it have a beautiful opening ceremony lol?

[phunky_monkey]

haha you'd hope so!

I think the guages are needed for my application, and I sold all my defi's so the price hit isn't quite so bad.

$2800 is a bit ouch though, $1600 is a lot nicer

[Duncan]

I don't see why you would go this way.

I run

oil temp

water temp

oil pressure

volt

boost

fuel pressure

exhaust gas temp

wideband 02

in addition to stock revs, speed, torque, dodgy oil pressure, etc etc standard dash

and the 02 sensor comes with 1mb data logger with 7 inputs.

under $1500 all up

[N I B]

I found the stack rubbish,Been using AIM all year and their great.

Check their web site for full details.

[justin911]

stack thingy looks boring / plain / cheap

defi cluster looks waaaay cooler

[phunky_monkey]

Yeah, I'd say the defi is the pick of the bunch, but it's very pricey...

NIB: Could you elaborate mate? Which AIM are you using? Is yours wired into the ECU, or standalone?

Duncan: I just had oil temp, oil pressure, boost and water temp guages which I've sold. I want to clean up the dash area, as well as having the ability to time laps.

The money I got for my Defi's, plus the sale of my stock cluster with 280km/h speedo, and my ECUTALK display, PLUS having to purchase a lap timer, has meant that the cost of buying one of these units is not too bad, hence why I'm going this way.

[Beer Baron]

I havent seen that on the Defi site, has it been released yet Richard?

yeah it's been out for about 2 years or so, but defi do not retail it for OS markets. nothing to stop you buying one in japan though

Dane, if you really want one I can grab you one from japan. much cheaper than $2800 for sure.

I say do it, you will have the first one in aus that I know about.

[phunky_monkey]

Hey Richard, if you can get one for significantly cheaper than $2800 I'd be be really grateful if you'd be able to pick me one up!

[Kaido_RR]

i use a epson ej-1 driving emotion system with a nismo dash (the one with the tv in it)

its pretty good system which display

i've still tring to work up how to setup all the data logging function as all the info i have on it is in Japanese but what i have worked out it awsome!

unfortunately the dash was only aviable for the r33

[phunky_monkey]

That's pretty cool mate, never seen it before!

Not really what I'd be after anyway though

[Kaido_RR]

That's pretty cool mate, never seen it before!

Not really what I'd be after anyway though

yeah its a bit sucky that it doesnt display oil pressure, oil temp, water temp etc etc had to go out and buy some gauges

[t01-100]

A mate has a Microtech dash in his RX7, it doesn't look very pro, but has pre-set values for warnings ect which do get your attention. Does Defi allow that?

I assume Motec dash is double the price of these?... much nicer to use though.

[phunky_monkey]

Yep, sure does mate, as does the Stack and the MXL.

I used to have a microtech dash in my old RX7. Was quite basic, but showed you everything you needed.

Not sure how much the Motec dash is, but I don't run a motec and I think it takes it's reading directly from the ECU. It looks to be very similar to the MXL anyway, and I can make the MXL standalone.

This is a link to each for reference:

ST8130

http://www.stackltd.com/st8130.html

Pista

http://www.aimsports.com/products/mxl-pista/index.html

[t01-100]

I think its important for the unit to bring your attention to problems, I rarely pay attention to secondary gauges.

Motec dash can be stand alone also.

The stack unit looks clean and simple... the Defi one looks too road car.