Can I Get Away With Spacers?

[zorb_rules]

Hey guys I just brought some 18x8 rims for my r33 gtst they were cheap and I couldnt pass them up.. anyhow on full lock the tyre knocks the bottom ofr the strut just slightly.. there are 235/40/18's on the front.. if I use spacers can I push the rim out enough to clear the strut or will i need different tyres??

Ill try get the offset for you all..

[GTR_STEALTH]

Spacers will do the job, but im pretty sure they're illegal. And if u have an accident, i think ur insurance can reem ya for it!

[DogKnight]

I would hate to find out that they are illegal as I have them installed on my car currently. Was informed they were legal where I purchased them and I double checked as I wanted to make sure the rims I purchased were completely legal as I didnt want any troubles. Got them from Dandenong Tyre Factory.

[zorb_rules]

anyone with a similar tyres size and rim size on their gtst.. what size spacers will I need?

[abu]

Use like a 10mm spacer that should do the trick.

anyone with a similar tyres size and rim size on their gtst.. what size spacers will I need?

I run 235/45/17 on the fronts, but thats an R32 and with 17" wheels.

I don't have any issues at all, even witht he car really low. It's not really relevant but, you will need to get the offset for more information.

Edited November 14, 2007 by abu

[DogKnight]

anyone with a similar tyres size and rim size on their gtst.. what size spacers will I need?

Mine are 9.5 on the front. 18 x 235.

On the back they are 10.5. 18 x 265.

Cant remember the spacer size they used. I remember though they had to grind a couple ml out of the control arm too.

[KURAUN]

dont go bigger then a 5mm slip on spacer if you do use them cause there wont be enuff thread on the stud to grab and itll be to dangerous, then you would have to go bolt on kits which start from lk 20mm i think which push your wheels out to much

And yes any form of spacer is illegal

[DogKnight]

dont go bigger then a 5mm slip on spacer if you do use them cause there wont be enuff thread on the stud to grab and itll be to dangerous, then you would have to go bolt on kits which start from lk 20mm i think which push your wheels out to much

And yes any form of spacer is illegal

Bastards.

And yes, I remember them mentioning spacer size that they needed to use smaller spacers as the thread wasnt enough, hence the grinding of the control arm.

[KURAUN]

Bastards.

And yes, I remember them mentioning spacer size that they needed to use smaller spacers as the thread wasnt enough, hence the grinding of the control arm.

Hmmm thats even more dodge when they start gringing factory parts geez :S

[SS8_Gohan]

dude that's mega dodge, first they've mislead you by saying something is legal when clearly it's not. And to compound matters, they are hacking away at factory parts. That's pretty serious if you ask me...

9.5 front and 10.5 rear.... like woh....

[DogKnight]

dude that's mega dodge, first they've mislead you by saying something is legal when clearly it's not. And to compound matters, they are hacking away at factory parts. That's pretty serious if you ask me...

9.5 front and 10.5 rear.... like woh....

Im pretty sure they are the sizes, but ill double check tonight.

In the end its partially my fault for not doing my research properly first of all, however sometimes you just rely on businesses as you dont have the knowledge and thats what they do for a job.

The guy was a nice bloke in general, even gave my mate and me a beer while we sat and waited for them to be put on. He also gave us a discount cause both my mate and I got rims together. However after hearing this, im pretty annoyed. Last thing I want is for an insurance claim not to go through because of something like this. And im still paying off these rims, I definately cant afford to change them over anytime soon. Plus I love the look of them and the performance/handling difference I got from going to 265's at the rear is awesome.

[zorb_rules]

JUst to add to this am I alright going with something cheap (i'm just using ebay for reference) such as these: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FLYING-TURBO-5MM-RI...1QQcmdZViewItem

or getting the bolt on ones like this?: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NISSAN-WHEEL-HUB-SP...1QQcmdZViewItem

[TurboX]

If spacers are illegle why do some Porsche's have them from the factory?

Or is that the issue that makes them only legal as factory fitment?

[Rekin]

according to vicroads website;

"spacers between the wheel and hub are not permitted unless provided by the vehicle manufacturer as original equipment"

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyre...8340/0/VSI8.pdf

slip-on spacers are dangerous because they shorten the thread of the bolt.

Bolt on spacers do not reduce any thread and are more safer than slip on's.

Some reputable suspension/tyre dealers claim that bolt on spacers are legal because of this. This may/may not be true.

[cheez]

i got 19x8 and 19x9 on my gtst. i run only a 3mm slip on spacer at the front. cant even notice it to be honest. and rear has no spacer.

i was under the impression that up to 5mm was allowed as rwc, but obviously not.

[Al]

The worst thing about slip on spacers is that the wheels are not sitting on the hub rings, located in the middle of all hubs. Therefor all the force exerted on the wheel/hubs is only supported by the studs, which can cause the studs to shear off, thus causing an accident.

The quality bolt on spacers are alot better because they are designed to "rest" on the factory hub ring, but also have an additional hub ring at the front for the wheel.

Bolts/studs are only there to keep the wheel pressed up against the hub; that's why if you torque the nuts, to specification, it's not extremely tight. The ring is what keeps the wheel located centrally to the hub, and supports/absorbs (can't think of the right word ) all the knocks from the road.

And hacking away at control arms, or even calipers, just to fit a rim is a complete joke. The sales rep bought you off cheaply with a beer .

[zorb_rules]

thanks guys so basically I shoudl go with the bolt on type as seen here is ebay all right to go with or am I best going to a tyre joint??? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NISSAN-WHEEL-HUB-SP...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Rekin]

continuing from Al's post,

aftermarket rims need hub locating rings so the load exerted will be on the axle hub and not the studs them selves.

A set of 4 rings only cost $12 but are a vital component in reducing vibration and any wear.

Speak to your tyre place for HCL rings

[candy33]

thanks guys so basically I shoudl go with the bolt on type as seen here is ebay all right to go with or am I best going to a tyre joint??? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NISSAN-WHEEL-HUB-SP...1QQcmdZViewItem

Get the ones from Justjap for like $120. I have them and there of good quality.

[khunjeng]

The worst thing about slip on spacers is that the wheels are not sitting on the hub rings, located in the middle of all hubs. Therefor all the force exerted on the wheel/hubs is only supported by the studs, which can cause the studs to shear off, thus causing an accident.

The quality bolt on spacers are alot better because they are designed to "rest" on the factory hub ring, but also have an additional hub ring at the front for the wheel.

Bolts/studs are only there to keep the wheel pressed up against the hub; that's why if you torque the nuts, to specification, it's not extremely tight. The ring is what keeps the wheel located centrally to the hub, and supports/absorbs (can't think of the right word ) all the knocks from the road.

And hacking away at control arms, or even calipers, just to fit a rim is a complete joke. The sales rep bought you off cheaply with a beer .

The spigot is the bit in the centre of the hub that you rest the inside centre of the wheel on whilst aligning the studs and screwing back the wheel nuts. On generic after market wheels, the spigot hole inside the wheels is a lot bigger than the spigot on the car. So what you need to do in this case is fit spigot locating rings. These are just rings of aluminium or hard plastic, that fit over the spigot on your car and then have a proper fit with the spigot hole on the wheel. If you don't have the spigot taking all the weight of the car, chances are you'll break one or more studs when you drive the car hard or have to brake hard. Remember the wheel nuts are simply there to hold the wheel on, NOT support the weight of the car. Also, as there is nothing to centre the wheel, you'll notice the wheels go in and out of balance because as you drive around, they'll move around on the hub.

Have a look at the latter half of the following link for some good info.

http://www.planetsoarer.com/offset/offset.htm