Strawberry Face 180 or R33 GTSt series II?

[predator]

Hmm...

I'd go a 1994 or greater 180. I've been looking around a bit myself, as strongly considering a 180 towards the end of the year (amongst other things), after I sell my R33. Nothing particularly wrong about my R33, and its got power a'plenty, however they can get a bit boring after a while... To have a "good" gts-t (that draws attention) you gotta throw $10-15k at it... whereas with a cheaper car you can spend that and still not break the bank.

Thing is you spend so much on the car itself, but to do serious mods you gotta spend big bucks. And there is this like "barrier" of around 190rwkw where you have to spend big to jump that extra to 220rwkw+ and replace the stock turbo and computer, etc.

What is tempting for me is get a 12k car, and spend 10k on it and have a 12sec car. And that gpsports kit - i don't care whether it costs me $5k or more but i want one! With sensibly chosen mods, you'll be pushing 180rwkw or so. In a 1250kg car, with better weight distribution you're not going to find many GTS-T's (or anything else) that will give it a run for its money.

Parts are cheaper, weight distribution is better, insurance probably cheaper, and the car is cheaper so you'd probably experiment more with it.

Noise? well a R33 skyline is hardly quiet either.. I am sure a bit of noise insulation can get that down.

Interior? Yer, looks pretty basic to me.. but spend $2-$3k getting the interior retrimmed in something sexc , different seats and you'll be happy i think.

Don't forget also - 4cylinders has one key advantage over a 6.. if you have to/choose to rebuild the engine, you only have to replace 4 pistons, 4 hypo injectors, 4 sets of rods, etc. Much cheaper!

So if you want good power "out of the box", and don't want to spend much on it and like the visuals maybe go the skyline, but if you want more power available for less, and have some knowledge and want to tinker around a lot more with it, go the 180.

[Stang]

Originally posted by Maxx

180  

u won't see many around.

What part of Adelaide do you live in? 180s are everywhere, not quite as many as R33s though.

[EVOIV]

I'd go for a late model 180 (1996+) with the black rocker cover SR20. Then do a s15 front end conversion, black out the round tail lights. Put a nice bodykit, or even better a widebody kit on it. Slam it to the ground on 18s and it'll look lurv-e-ly!! You can't beat the look Except maybe a damn nice looking chaser.

I feel that the R33 is too big a car to really get around. But then again, the interior of the 180s REALLY suck!! I would rip out the front two seats and replace them with Bride Seats. Also you can change the steering wheel and gear knob, but I don't know how much you can do about the dash...because they are pretty old looking. Maybe get a dash off the s15? They're nice! And I'm pretty sure it would fit without too much hassles.