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The question remains; Is an intake modification considered an engine modification?

I'm pretty sure you'd be allowed to get a bigger exhaust (provided noise was kept legal) so I can't se a problem with the othert end of the engine.

You could probably successfully argue that the engine is completely stock, which it is, and your car keeps with the letter of the law.

The wasy I read it is that they're trying to keep p-platers out of bored and stroked engines.

I think that if you were being a tool on the road, the copper would pull you over and give you a ticket. If not for the pod then for noise or anything he could think of. They consider it part of their job to make life difficult for hoons.

If you're driving sensibly, I don't think you'd have a problem. I've only been pulled over once in my skyline, and that was when it had no plates on, as I was on my way to compliance. I've even been waved through plenty of bretho's etc, although, I am not on my P's, so it's not quite the same.

I reckon you'd be safe, but the risk is up to you really.

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hmm, yeh i think your right, just be on the safe side i guess.

btw, whats the induction noise like in a gts? i would never have thought it would be that loud to be noticed?

Edited by sillylankan
There is one CLEAR answer - "Any modification that has the potential to alter a cars performance may be deemed as a power modification". Simple, the law is black and white, not shades of grey as some people would like to think.

And thats the point really right there :(

There is no way to "read" it differently when its spelled out in plain english i reckon

i would classify it as an engine mod and im pretty sure so would the cops. my car has a yellow air filter in it and im not sure what brand it is but it makes a sucking sound but its not very loud though. the weired thing is ive driven past lots of cops in my skyline and they have never pulled me over at all. in my area they tend to just pull over old bombs and holdens and fords with stockies on the rear.

An interesting and sensible topic...I have another option for you, fit a cotton panel filter as suggested by other posters, they're really very good. Then take the top off of your airbox and make some discreet slots or holes in the sides that face forward and towards the innerguard, do it on those sides only...rear and engine side will suck in too much hot air. Cutting the slots right on the corner is easiest

a hand saw would do the job. Do a neat job and it will never be picked. Less heat soak than a pod and it will give you increased flow and maybe even that induction sound you yearn.

DO NOT MAKE HOLE BELOW THE FILTER>>>DO THE LID ONLY it's also easy to change back if things aren't running as well as you'd like.

I have been doing this on gtst's for a while and have had np's performance wise unlike pods in hot weather.

Rick

hmm, yeh i think your right, just be on the safe side i guess.

btw, whats the induction noise like in a gts? i would never have thought it would be that loud to be noticed?

It aint loud at all.. infact i dont even notice it on there (thats with my k&n anyway) i wouldn't mind a bit of a woosh noise but dont exactly want to spend the 100 bucks again on another pod yet, im actually thinking of taking it off and putting the stock air box back in because i think the performance could be better (especially now with the heat) even though i have it sectioned off from the engine heat and still have the stock cold air intake atm. Maybe buy a electronic BOV if you want the SSSSSSSSSSTUTUTTUTUTU... jks (they actually have them tho :s)

An interesting and sensible topic...I have another option for you, fit a cotton panel filter as suggested by other posters, they're really very good. Then take the top off of your airbox and make some discreet slots or holes in the sides that face forward and towards the innerguard, do it on those sides only...rear and engine side will suck in too much hot air. Cutting the slots right on the corner is easiest

a hand saw would do the job. Do a neat job and it will never be picked. Less heat soak than a pod and it will give you increased flow and maybe even that induction sound you yearn.

DO NOT MAKE HOLE BELOW THE FILTER>>>DO THE LID ONLY it's also easy to change back if things aren't running as well as you'd like.

I have been doing this on gtst's for a while and have had np's performance wise unlike pods in hot weather.

Rick

errrm, let me get this straight - ur saying to make slits/holes above the filter?

So whats filtering the dusty air getting in?

errrm, let me get this straight - ur saying to make slits/holes above the filter?

So whats filtering the dusty air getting in?

The filter?

If you are making holes in the lid the air still has to pass through the filter. Same basic principle as the snorkel

errrm, let me get this straight - ur saying to make slits/holes above the filter?

So whats filtering the dusty air getting in?

In short ...THE FILTER :rolleyes:

2 spell it out...

Your induction pipe runs into the airbox lid... the lid holds the filter in place @ the top of the air box.

So to answer the question if I drill holes or cut slots into the front right hand corner of the lid (not the top its 2 visible)

the air filter catches the dust or whatever tha same as it alway does. This just increases flow and reduces cavitation for 0 cost.

If you want it easily reversable go and get some rubber bungs/grommets from super cheap or similar then drill holes 2 suit the bungs instead of slots in the airbox lid.

don't like it..........plug holes with bungs and your back 2 stock.

DO NOT MAKE HOLES IN YOUR AIRBOX!!!! just the front r/h/s corner of the lid (furthest from the engine) less heat there

Just to crarify again the holes/slots are to be made on the r/h/s corner down the side of the AIR BOX LID

It's a very simple mod, the ones I like the best.

Delljits on the money...basically the same setup, just it's free to do. you still have the nice cold air from the induction pipe but you also get added volume by doing this...and the airs still pretty cool @ the front corner off the engine bay.

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think i better play it safe and not get one

i have already sacrificed a turbo. what is a pod filter

my car right now is stock as a rock besides a muffler modification.

yeh, my point exactly. There's not really much point spending money on performance mods for your car for two main reasons, 1 being that they arnt gonna do much, and 2 being a p plater makes it very hard for you and risky with the new laws. Hold out till you get off your p's and buy a turbo model.

you will be sweet i rekon. if it worries you that much id just get an apexi panel, or KnN, take out the sound deadening padding on the inside of the top of the box and be done.

It may not give you a louder noise than a pod. but hey.. it helps. At the end of the day, you would probably be fine, but if your concerned about it then dont bother.

think i better play it safe and not get one

i have already sacrificed a turbo. what is a pod filter

my car right now is stock as a rock besides a muffler modification.

So you have replaced your stock rear muffler?

If so put the pod on (if you like) as you have already broken the law, and if a cop is going to get you for the pod, he'll get you for the muffler too.

Pods, mufflers, extractors, fmic, etc are ALL considered as performance enhancing mods.

I don't think so either, but if they do, I don't think it'll be much.

You would be suprised. Got a 3A Racing pod on mine. Give it some stick and it sounds great :D

Finster, I would be more concerned with the exhaust mod you have than the pod filter. Id say that would be the first thing cops would be looking for on a P plater car. Like Al said, you might aswell chuck a pod in it now. Just keep it nice and neat and when you get off your p's, sell it and buy a gtst. Or, if it has too much sentimental value, decide to respray it, become too attached to it and don't want to sell it anymore (like I have), do a conversion (like I am) ;)

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