Engineers

[D3bb4]

If it's already been engineered, it should mean that the test should have already been administered, thus not needing to go through it again. Probably means EPA will do the same thing but and double check it.

There's a decent engineer 1/2 way to the city... forget his name but. Near five dock or something maybe - off wattle st or something. Would possibly be a good person to talk to - shall see if can find details.

[MRGTR911]

Quick Note i engineered the car after i got Defected.... Mabye if i got it engineered before i wouldnt be having all these troubles

[s13_Skyline_inside]

i got my old 180 engineered by TIC (transport industry consultants) was a few years back though and they were pretty good, I spoke to the engineer first and asked him what needed to get done before he would pass it, did it then brought to him and he passed it. in my experiance cops usually looked under the bonnet said ok and closed it even though 1 time id taken the box of the pod, give them the cert as soon as they ask you to pop the bonnet and it seems like they dont really want the hassle of defecting you, mind you I wasnt a smart ass to them.

[2BNVS]

nsw sucks, up here in qld so long as the filter is secure, and u cant shake it, thats all that is required... i remember when i lived in wollongong how much b/s i got... had to get emission test for my air filter, car was stock so of course it passed... but it wasnt induction noise they were checking, (hks pod, was very loud)

ben...

[s13_Skyline_inside]

yeh you guys get it pretty easy up there from what ive heard, lucky .........'s

[MRGTR911]

Guys i just thought id give you an Update on my Car ....

I have passed my RTA Defect ( Blue Slip )

I have passed part of My EPA TEST

Emissions test Done and i have Passed ( Thanx to hitman , That guy is a top bloke, Ive never met someone who spends so much time explaining things )

Noise Test For Exsaust ( Just passed It i think i got like 89 or something )

My waste Gate Arms - I dont know how im going to get it through this guys Head the arms arnt welded i put the screwdriver on the arm and i pushed it and the arms moves up and down which means its not welded , but he says The part it is connected to is welded so remove the weld clean it up i still dont get it but hey thats life

My main Concern was After i got an engineers certificate For my Air filter Box which clearly states aftermarket Box built with cold air intake , They will noty pass it for me AT DECC , EPA Whatever they are.. My main concern is i passed the emissions test, i passed the noise test ??? Why cant they pass this box , On the defect it says Rectify Air filter noise , i did the noise test and i passed ... Yet they will not pass this aftermarket box even though i had it engineered tested , It went through emission testing ... I got in contact with the engineer happens to be ( TIC ) He says there isnt much he can do bout it because the decc makes there own rules the decc has stated they will only pass a standard box ?? wtffff??.. Guys isnt there anything i can do about this ???

Now for me to pass i have to get rid of all my aftermarket piping because standard airbox wont fit with all my aftermarket piping. Ive had to borrow my friends Standard parts, Intercooler pipes and Air box ( thank god hes doing a rebuild ) i worked out i can still use my power fc d jetro ill just disconnect AFM'S .. But i mean guys even beofre i do all this isnt there anything i can do ?? I Mean i paid this engineer to pass all this stuff for me and al is well except for this filter box ? has anyone got any ideas ???

By the way i am posting all this stuff as well for future purposes for other people so i can help them clearing there defects and giving them advice ...

Guy any help ???

[MRGTR911]

S 13 SKYLINE... I know when i clear all this stuff ill be fine because i will have all my papers ready for the police.. Only problem is you got to be careful of Epa stations.. im going to be extra careful...

[Taleb Tyres]

Moei, u know about my problem, i ended up finding the stock piping and airbox which i just bolted up and passed, but if i didnt find that what i was going to do was find the smallest stock airbox i could (ie excel or something) and modify that to bolt on as there was no way the stock box was going to fit with my piping.

[jeff]

Noise Test For Exsaust ( Just passed It i think i got like 89 or something )

what exhaust did you have to pass? oem ?

[MRGTR911]

My Neighbour at work did it for me he does exsausts it sounded like an excel when he finished with it , Yet the guy at granville still reved it up to like 6-7 rpm.. Trying to fail me but it didnt work... Jeff as you said he makes up numbers like if it was revving at 88 hed say to the guy 92 and im thinking in my head what the f*** is this guy on about ???

like im going to have to put some standard piping on to fit the standard airbox to pass .. what a headache..... luckily my friends car has been pulled apart....

[D3bb4]

I've previously walked up to a hidden defect station and asked the cops in there wtf is the go with defects. They said that basically: anything that's not standard gets defected unless it's engineered.

TIC... did my certificate too.

Seems like they just on a power trip, as legally i doubt they're doing the right thing. Maybe see if you can talk to cops or solicitor about it. Not the quickest solution however.

As far as exhaust noise goes; the local environment effects the reading. Sound resonates off buildings, etc. but is baffled by things such as open space/trees. Also; sometimes cars produce less noise at higher revs. My friend's car was tested at 4k rpm, failed. Then the engineer tried 5k, passed.

Some exhaust shops also do tests if you want a more legit/less corrupted reading?

[s13_Skyline_inside]

yeh epa are the ones you gotta be scared of, engineer's cert can staisfy cops but epa are somthing else, lucky for me ive never delt with them but ive heard some horror stories like your one

[MRGTR911]

yeah i had a talk to a EPA Officer he called me from his phone i explained to him my situation.. Mind you he was the one who defected me at brighton.. He told me first he absolutely loved my car , I Was quick to ask him about my enginners report on filter noise.. i Had a bit of advice from Anthony ( GUILT-TOY , total champ..) Who said if you do a noise test on the filters and it passes Legally i wont have any worries When i mentioned this to the Epa officer he kind of studdered , BUT He kept his ground He actually even told me guys you can even cut your stock box to fit into your aftermarket piping then patch it up and stuff but i find it hard to believe a standard box will fit in after you made such adjustments, I even had a talk to my solicitor about this ( Yes i was that pissed off He told me your 50/50 Chance in court depends what mood the judge is in , So i thought to myself its not worth it. My cars Piping is being pulled apart as we speak going to put some stock items back on to pass this friggen test .... Its frustrating though all the guy has to do is take pictures of the box and it will pass then i wouldt most likely be putting everything back to normal hoping never to be pulled up by the epa....

i thank you aagin guys for all the help... i just hope noone goes through what ive gone through...

[jeff]

Yeah, told you about this guy at granville....

Luckily all I had to do was an exhaust noise check....he wanted to do an emmissions test coz my car was a personal import and i didnt have my rego papers to prove that the engine in the car was the one listed on the rego when it arrived here.

everyone knows we'll end up putting it back to the way it was so why do they bother defecting??!!!

[MRGTR911]

Man the epa guy on the phone almost felt sorry for me ahaha why did he defect me then.. Hes like mate get it cleared then stay away from EPA Stations and if the cops pull you over pull out all your paper work lol...

Doesnt really bother me much as i dont drive the car much ive taken it out on a couple of skyline cruises and everynow and then city for a lap..

Its just running around like an idiot clearing shit .. i bet you guys these cops will never pull over any hotted up holdens they must really have it in bad for us jap boys.....

And that guy at granville i swear man he went through the whole car ... im like hello im clearing my defects this isnt the Pits lol.... life goes on i guess...

[s13_Skyline_inside]

funny you said that about holdens, mate of mine had to get his car cleared at an rta kinda place in that area, might be the same place, got a v8 ute thats a bit of a shit box, exaust is nearly rusted through and leaky exaust gaskets through out and he said the guy skimmed over it and pased him right away but there was a guy with a honda there that looked like he wa getting reemed

where abouts was the epa station you got done at, i know harry's pie's in woolamaloo (cant spell) is a known hot stop for them

[MRGTR911]

Bay st Brighton the worst place ever ... Can anyone here post up were EPA Stations are so we can all know were not to go .... ???

[s13_Skyline_inside]

yeh should start a sticky listing hot spots for them, brightons another place ive heard about, main reason why i havnt gone there with my car at night lol

[D3bb4]

There's a defect station they set up out the back of castle hill...

They pulled my mate over in north parra and made him follow them there. They radio ahead (i know because i walked into the place once to ask them a few questions... they got a bit of a shock when i walked up but )

If they try and take you there... maybe run outa fuel and tell 'em they can inspect it another day

[MRGTR911]

Ahaha.. Im having problems fitting my standard box back on as i have aftermarket piping which gets in the way totally , I May have to use a different Make of box mabye a holden or ford one will fit as long as its plastic , Do you guys think they will tell the difference????.. This has been a funny 3 weeks ..... Good experience....

Does anyone have any ideas about fitting my standard box ?? if you want to see pics of my engine bay its on the for sale section .. mabye you can get a better look there... Thanx for all the help...