RX7 Vs Skyline

[Ryosuke Takahashi]

yes i have to agree with you about that

but rotary engines always have a short life span when ported,dowelled etc compared to the rb26 engine with forged pistons and so on.....so when it all adds up having a rotary does cost alot to maintain

[Neil]

Stock to Stock,,,I'd have the GTR (thats only if you are talking about GTR's) Much more reliable,,,,TT Mazda's love eating exhaust manifolds and turbos. Rotary's actually don't have a short life span,,,it's all up to the clown behind the wheel.

Please don't use Bathurst as a comparison,,,Mazda's entry was a full factory effort,,,Nissan's was a private deal. Horsley built a missile being the SP,,,full carbon air intake and a shit-load more.

I'd sell my GTS-T tomorrow for a nice clean RX7SP,,but I'd have to chuck at least 3 grand at it,,,just to make as reliable as a GTR.

Neil.

[CroatianR33]

Hmmm....

I would say the Rx7 is in between the standards of the GTR and GTS-T.

QTR mile- STOCK for STOCK

R33 GTR wins.

I've got a Japanese video with stock Rx7 (either series 6 or 7)and stock R33 GTR doing the quarter mile with proffesional drivers and the GTR whooped its ass.... GTR= 13.030

Rx7= 13.726

Now take into account that an inexperienced driver would launch an rx7 and spin on the spot for about a second or two and that would put the poor bugger even further behind.

As for track. I guess it depends on which track it is. Im guessing the Rx7 *might* win on a very technical course cause its a smaller car.

One of my mates with a stock rotor says they are reliable but another one who used to have a modded rotor disagreed. He thought once you started to work on them things would slowly deteriorate, crack and blow etc.

I reckon both cars are sexy but it comes down to personal taste.

If your asking this because you wanna know what car to buy....GO THE GTR!!!

[JimX]

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Originally posted by CroatianR33

One of my mates with a stock rotor says they are reliable but another one who used to have a modded rotor disagreed. He thought once you started to work on them things would slowly deteriorate, crack and blow etc.

Yes, it's the bridgeporting that makes them unreliable. Stick to the stock ports and add a turbo and it'll be as reliable or moreso than a normal engine.

[hawks]

if i could afford either car, i would take the rx-7.

[DaiOni]

I'm not going to reiterate everything I said in the performance forums thread (go take a look if you're interested), but will respond to a couple of comments here.

(disclaimer: I own a s6 and a r33 - and love them both. I don't have a GTR (and don't need one with the s6) but they are still one of my favourite machines)

* first of all, I keep my skyline because it has a usable back seat and four doors (yes, 4)

* re: GTR vs s6 over 400m. I have plenty of japanese videos too (lots!) and own the best motoring vid where they compare the 95 rx7 vs the GTR. A v-spec beats the rx7 (and, in turn, gets its arse handed to it by a top spec nsx). The rx7 beats the GTO and Supra, among others. The s6 is only beaten by the nsx around the tsukuba circuit (universal testing track in japan). There is a large margin behind these two. I would also like to remind people that the r32 GTR (which is what we should be comparing an early s6 too) also got smashed by the r33 v-spec in a best motoring review. Stock for stock, the JDM s6 is (at least) a match for the 32.

* A s8 rx7 is a serious machine.

* My rx7 weighs 1260kg

* JGTC is not a good comparo (it's like comparing your garden variety commodore to a touring car). For a more realistic (but still very highly modded) comparison - the tsukuba time trials.

current standings:

1. (S) JUN HYPER LEMON Evo 5: 55h976s

2. (S) M Speed Skyline BNR34: 56"372s

3. (S) ATTKD BNR32: 56"751s

4. (S) HKS Evo 7: 56"814s

5. (A) RE Amemiya FD3S: 56"863s

[Daz]

I would go the RX-7 all the way. My all time favorite car under 60k

[rev210]

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Originally posted by Ryosuke Takahashi

yes i have to agree with you about that  

but rotary engines always have a short life span when ported,dowelled etc compared to the rb26 engine with forged pistons and so on.....so when it all adds up having a rotary does cost alot to maintain

If you work any engine you dramatically shorten it's life to next rebuild.

you are seriously mistaken about your information.

I could afford to run high performance chookers for many years on a students income.

I'm sure those of us with real rotory experience will all disagree with you.

[rev210]

I am sort of deciding between an R33/32 GTR and a RX7 series 8 for my next car.

At this stage the RX7 looks a little more attractive.

[DaiOni]

a series 8 is still massively expensive due to the limited compliance opportunties (single complier?), not sure how that is affected (if at all) under the new scheme. The s8s have been selling for well above the GTR prices.

[Ryosuke Takahashi]

yes i admit i have no experience at all with rotaries but i know a few people who own rotors some which have some work on them

i heard for a rotor when you blow one seal eg oil seal or something i dunno the whole engine is gonna go

i am also a gtr fan btw so don't think i have something against skylines because i just can't afford one atm

[rev210]

My mate's family has had the RAWS done recently on the series 8, unlike Mazda they were able to get it past emissions and noise.

It cost them tho'. They had to send one over for side impact testing which obvioulsy bollocks a completely good car.

[mrchams]

I've owned both an R32 GTR and a series 6 rx7 at the same time a few months ago.

I've owned my Rx7 for a number of years. I thought I would change to the very talked about GTR.

It was hard to compair the GTR's engine performance to my Rx7 due the Rx7 being fully decked out with a T4 turbo setup but I made many enquiries to build up the GTR's motor and get after market twin turbo setup. After my research I saw I would be out of pocket a minimum of $35,000 for a mild to high horsepower setup. 2 months later I sold the GTR.

They can keep their 4WD system!

If anyone is interested how much the Rx7 setup cost. It was round $20,000 which included everything.