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Ok, bear with me. The important thing to remember here is: R31's ARE OLD CARS. My conversation with the local R31 expert here in Kobe was 30 minutes of explaining WHY I needed such indepth info, then 10-15 minutes of fact finding.

Well, the obvious electric front seat in the GTS-X you all know.

Here's the stuff you might not know about the '86 R31...

*The GTS came with an AM/FM radio ONLY.

*The GTS-X came with an AM/FM radio AND Casette.

*The GTS-X had a CD Player as an option. CD player = GTS-X.

*The GTS-X had a Sunroof option. Sunroof = GTS-X.

*The GTS-X had Cruise Control as an option. Cruise Control = GTS-X.

Here`s the big one:

***The GTS-X has a Spit-Fold Rear Seat as standard! The GTS doesn`t!!! The GTS has just a plain bench seat with no options.

*The GTS-X came standard with 15inch alloy wheels.

*The GTS weighs 1320kg 5MT, and 1340kg AT.

*The GTS-X weighs 1350kg 5MT, and 1370kg AT.

Now, the only sure-bet that you`ve got a GTS-X is probably the split-fold rear seat (unless you want to weigh your car).

As I said at the beginning, (and what dear Kaneko-san repeated 3 times) is that these cars are old, theres a very good chance that someone along the line has swapped parts to make a GTS a GTS-X to sell for a higher price, or the only replacement parts available were of the different model but close enough etc, etc...

So from me, good luck R31 crew, I hope you can identify GTS/GTS-X from 500m now!!!:D

/Rezz.

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Oh, and one more thing...

It makes no difference if your GTS/GTS-X does, or doesn`t have a front/rear spoiler. Those front/rear spoilers were an option on BOTH cars, and as I said before, it`s also likely that the spoilers weren`t factory fitted, but done later by the owner(s).

Kaneko-san mentioned that he remembered when these cars were on the new car market (!) that the dealers often threw the spoilers on as a "free-bee"...

Originally posted by R31Heaven

Well this tells me I have a GTS-X :D but were does the extra 30-40 kilos come from? and thanks for the info Rezz cleared up heaps.

Well, those cassette players can be damn heavy LOL :)

But seriously, all the other things being optional, it seems the extra weight is in the electric seat.....

It seems the weight for the GTS-X is for a fully optioned one. Factor in the sunroof, bigger wheels, etc, and that weight of 1350kg for the 5MT would be the MOST that the GTS-X would weigh.

The fact that the GTS has bugger all options means that any GTS is likely to weigh bang on 1320...

Hey Rezz..

can you help out with my GTS-R ?

is there like a build number or something on them ?

a code...

I've got the build plate that says RB20DET-R... and that proves its a GTS-R, but there is no build number of sorts.

ALSO i heard they had Nismo GTS-R's... a limited run of around 80 of them? out of the 800 made...

any help is much appreciated.

ash

Originally posted by R31Nismoid

Hey Rezz..

can you help out with my GTS-R ?

is there like a build number or something on them ?

a code...

I've got the build plate that says RB20DET-R... and that proves its a GTS-R, but there is no build number of sorts.

ALSO i heard they had Nismo GTS-R's... a limited run of around 80 of them? out of the 800 made...

any help is much appreciated.

ash

I don't know about a "Nismo" GTS-R limited build, but there was an Autech version released in '88 in small numbers. I've only seen 1 on the road in 3 1/2 years in Japan.

There was a Nismo GTS released about the same time ('86-'87), but there are quite a few GTS's "posing" as Nismo's, to the point where people get pissed with you if you ask 'em if it's genuine...

The build plate I don't know. I'll check it out, but if your looking for a HSV style "Build 23 of 800" plate... mmm, maybe not. Anybody else got a genuine GTS-R?

There are a few here with one.

not many but enough.

A few here in the state of Victoria now.

mmm... I had a nismoid GTS at one stage. If you've heard of those?

mmm... Maby not like HSV... but an identifier number of some description would be the shit!

Cause i've got an IMPUL dash in my one!

Something I've noticed with the GTS is that they have a vinyl boot and non folding mirrors whereas the GTS-X has a carpeted boot and folding mirrors.

Pete,

My old GT Passage had that velour thing happeneing on the pillar covers. It was more like a spray-on treatment rather than a fabric.

Ed

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