Anyone has had any success fighting red light Infringemet?

gizmo · July 5, 2003

Guys,

Need help on fighting this as license is on the line. I ran a yellow at around 12:30am and got pulled over by the cops. Did a breath test and then checked my license and said i will be receiving a red light infringement in the mail. Didnt issue me any on the spot ticket. Does this sound familiar, will i be able to fight this?.... thanks for any help in advance.

Brody · July 6, 2003

From my experiences, when cops say "in the mail", it means "im trying to be hard and start u up"...Ive never heard of any1 having heard that, then receiving something in the mail, though don't rely on that

Morgs · July 6, 2003

I've been pulled over and told my fine is in the mail.... got it too

predator · July 6, 2003

Is it illegal to run an orange light in sydney?

gizmo · July 6, 2003

Brody - yes that was what i wanted to hear

Morg - that wastnt what i wanted to hear

Predator666 - it really depends on what the cops think you ran... u know you ran an orange which is ok but i think she was on a powertrip that night and booked me ..... as soon as she booked me she speed up to book another person straight away....

gizmo · July 6, 2003

The question is has anyone successfully fought this in the courts ... need some tips... there was no red light camera ... she was turning right when i went passed her ... so its going to be her say against my say ... and i have a feeling that its not going to go my own....

i guess i will need to cop it sweet.

T0nyGTSt · July 6, 2003

I could swear that the light was yellow when I went thru it...

It's supposed to be a 2/3 sec. buffer but many don't have that it seems.

T.

**Shell** · July 6, 2003

as far as I've always been aware - orange means STOP !

I remember this, from way back at school when we had cops come in and teach us the road rules

obviously, if it turns orange and you don't have time to stop, you don't have to try to skid to a stop, but as far as the "rules" go....orange means stop and you should (if you can).

So, I think she would be in her rights to book you for it if she really wanted to (harsh call tho!!)

As for a fine "in the mail"....I've been booked and it arrived in my letterbox. Personally by a patrol car too, cos there was no stamp or mailing stuff on it

Jamezilla · July 7, 2003

Isn't this how the Blues Brothers got started?

GraemeWi · July 7, 2003

First of all, you should maintain the light was green. Seeing an orange light means you knew it was going to go red. Say green.

gizmo · July 7, 2003

Shell - Your correct according to the RULES. However how many people do you see on a daily basis run whenever the padestrian strip when the man starts flashing.....

Jamezilla - dont quite follow you there..... please explain

GraemeWi - Good point.

Wonder if my chances are better if i plead "delusional at time of driving" as i mis-took them from the christmas lights at the drags so i ran

Jamezilla · July 7, 2003

gizmo: Sorry.

Monday morning - needed a chuckle

Have you not seen the movie?

"The light was yellow officer"

Perhaps I'm showing my age...

Evil · July 7, 2003

I h8 red light fines... I went through an amber and got booked for running a red 4 seconds after red (fcuking cops ) $170 fine and 3 points. Point is your chances of a sucessful fight are not too great espescially if there is no photo (you said a cop pulled you over). It would be the cop's word against yours...

July 7, 2003

i heard that a sneeze may get u off a fine like this coz when u sneeze ur eyes automatically close so u could not have seen the light turn orange. Just get a bogus medical certificate saying u got the flu and u should have some stuff to fight it!

darkhalf · July 7, 2003

in SA to get done by a camera its 4 seconds orange, about 0.5 second red, click, 1 second, click again and they have the speed you're doing plus two photos to prove you ran the light. getting done by a cop though i dunno

hippy · July 7, 2003

i've ran a red in front of a cop once ... i was in 2 minds whether to stop or not so it was tooo late to stop by the time i made up my mind LOL .. the cop was to the right and behind me ... they stopped and i just went on my merry way ... i think they would of seen me in 2 minds whether to stop or not ... nothing happened luckily

gizmo · July 7, 2003

Jamezilla - no havnt seen it yet. Any good?

INASNT - Sound like a plan....a good one too. thanks.

darkhalf - definately a scientifically better proven method like that of CSI. For all i know she could have been daydreaming and then saw the tail lights of my liner, looked up and saw that its red, thought to herself he seemed to be going pretty fast thus must have ran the red sarcasm

hippy - u are so lucky.

I guess my next question is if the worst was suppose to happen would you

a) lose your license and serve the 3 month suspension

B) keep your license and go on a good behaviour bond for 12 months and drive like a grandma sunday driver.

c) lose your license and still keep on driving only for emergency ofcourse....oh did i say that .

July 7, 2003

Originally posted by gizmo
Jamezilla - no havnt seen it yet. Any good?

INASNT - Sound like a plan....a good one too. thanks.

darkhalf - definately a scientifically better proven method like that of CSI. For all i know she could have been daydreaming and then saw the tail lights of my liner, looked up and saw that its red, thought to herself he seemed to be going pretty fast thus must have ran the red sarcasm

hippy - u are so lucky.

I guess my next question is if the worst was suppose to happen would you

a) lose your license and serve the 3 month suspension

B) keep your license and go on a good behaviour bond for 12 months and drive like a grandma sunday driver.

c) lose your license and still keep on driving only for emergency ofcourse....oh did i say that .

b and d, *** the cops!

when u sneeze ur eyes automatically close, its a scientific fact, use it man!

July 7, 2003

yeh im with shell, ive been told in qld now you can be done for going through a yellow.. unless it wasnt safe to stop

inanst is also correct with sneezing, it is physically impossible to keep your eyes open when sneezing, it can be used as an excuse.....

July 7, 2003

Originally posted by hippy
i've ran a red in front of a cop once ... i was in 2 minds whether to stop or not so it was tooo late to stop by the time i made up my mind LOL .. the cop was to the right and behind me ... they stopped and i just went on my merry way ... i think they would of seen me in 2 minds whether to stop or not ... nothing happened luckily

haha that happened to me one time, the light just turned red and i sped through it, when i went past i saw a cop on my left hand side.....i thought o shit their gonna book me. But luckly they didn't, didn't know whether they knew it was red, but their light turned really quickly after.

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