Intercooler Upgrade Questions.

[Simon-S14]

Ive got a decent amount of power in my track drift car and it sees some hefty track workouts for an extended period of time sometimes, along with a lot of waiting around. Now i currently have a crappy monsta performance generic china core with cooler pipe set up to suit R32 etc.

Now it gets pretty warm overall after a few hard runs... and the sitting around in the line up without airflowing through it really makes it feel dull off the line rather then if im doing continuous laps.. So i was thinking about upgrading the core..

What should i look at getting which would do a better job of flowing and cooling?

[bnr#@]

ARC if your serious, some of the best intercoolers arround, not cheap though...

[Simon-S14]

well thats just it, i dont mind paying for a decent cooler... i only want to do it once... Since its a drift car accidents can happen. while i havent destroyed a cooler yet i have seen many busted ones in the last drift event. So i dont really want to outlay 1K+ on something i might bust.

So im looking middle ground really.. something better then the china core i have now

[NYTSKY]

How about some sort of spray system onto your cooler.

NOS or water.

Will cool inlet temps down while your out on the circuit or even sitting in line.

[Simon-S14]

already have that kind of system in place (Water sprayers) and yeah it works well. but i cant be on the sprayers all the time.

But hey, if people think i should stick with the core i have now... then i'll do it lol. im just after idea's

[dead32]

my mates dr30 saw lower intake air temps with a china core then it does now with a gtr intercooler, not much of a comparison but just stating a fact.. dont write them off just because they dont have a cool logo on the core ... my 2cents

[vinnie32GTS4]

why not go a Trust M-Spec cooler..theyre pretty good and kits only cost round 700 bucks.

[paulr33]

what about using thermo fans behind the core to suck air thru combined with a water spray kit

you could use this at the start line before you fang off and it would do a pretty big temp drop

the air suck from the thermo's and water spray should make it cold as long as the fans are ducted correctly

good idea or not - not sure ?

[STATUS]

why not go a Trust M-Spec cooler..theyre pretty good and kits only cost round 700 bucks.

$599 from autobarn atm, if you are willing to wait (ive quit so i can plug them now ) i had a container coming of the trustLS type which is the new tube and fin not the shitty bar and plate type it will be around $599-$649 and lands early jan into thier warehouse. im pretty sure they had sold out of our first shipment before i left.

[swanny180]

To be honest I wouldnt bother changing the cores.

Something interesting to think about which is why I dont think its worthwhile - would a better core actually fix your problem? I mean personally I cant see why even the absolute best intercooler cores wouldnt suffer heatsoak when stationary with high ambient temps and no airflow.

I can definitely see that there may be *some* marginal difference between something awesome (say a plasmaman or ARC cooler) as opposed to typical china crap, but at the same time it would be just that - marginal.

The only real difference would come from slightly better quality material being used giving a slightly better heatsink effect.

The problem is, that doesnt change the fact that either of them will become heatsoaked relatively quickly.

I think my point is youd be better off spending the money developing or buying a quality off the shelf CO2 cooler spray kit (or similar).

Or perhaps looking into improving your current water spray system? Bigger tank? Nozzle that mists the water better? Stronger pump? Etc etc

Thats my take on it anyway

[Simon-S14]

All very valid points mate, I think ill start with the basic stuff and work with what i have, then go from there.

Cheers

Simon

[robots]

Or install some electric fans instead of the viscous fan. They move a lot of air. Or think of relocating the upper intercooler pipe. It gets things very warm there.

Edited December 23, 2007 by robots

[brent32]

some times the queing at idle at drift practice days in the hot sun can seem like a very turbo unfriendly experience. Would shutting engine down inbetween longish waits be better?

[R31Nismoid]

What are the intake temps like??

Before cooler?

After cooler?

Would be good to get these numbers to get an idea of where you are at now.

[Simon-S14]

some times the queing at idle at drift practice days in the hot sun can seem like a very turbo unfriendly experience. Would shutting engine down inbetween longish waits be better?

i do this anyway, but makes no diff as theres still stacks of heat under the bonnet there

[R31Nismoid]

I/C spray then, best thing for th job.

Can be made, and setup for $10.

[Simon-S14]

if you read, you'd see that i already have one set up.

[abu]

Hey Simon, have you considered a return flow style setup where the piping runs back under the intercooler and up through the one side?

Its been said the temps a relatively lower due to the fact that the intake pipe (cooler to intake manifold) is always exposed to air directly flowing over it.

Something like the older blitz kit.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Su...te-t190267.html

Have a look at the link above, post #12. Thats the style of kit I'm referring to.

Edited December 24, 2007 by abu

[R31Nismoid]

if you read, you'd see that i already have one set up.

With a couple of fans as well?

Without knowing the intake temps, pressure drop etc. You cant really say a cooler isnt doing its job well enough.

So get the numbers then you can see what its doing

[toffy]

i dunno if its a stupid question or not , but would it benificial to add a couple of vents in your bonnet in an attempt to keep under bonnet temps down?, and have you thought about whacking on a forward facing plenum?

Edited December 24, 2007 by toffy