Adz2332 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 (edited) DELETE!!! plz delete Edited December 28, 2007 by Adz2332 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 need to know asap! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brockas Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Low end increases? Keep your stock cams then. For mid-range increases, then 264 degree cams are the go. The reason people talk about TOMEI poncams is because they are a direct fit (~9.1mm lift). The HKS cams which are a direct fit are only 8.4mm lift, so most people just go for the TOMEI cams. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_GTR Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 If you want to focus on low-mid range power i would try the new Tomei "Type R" poncams for GTR. I think they are around 252 duration, and very effective for low-mid range. Cam gears will also help bring boost/powerband earlier. I wouldnt do cams without out the wheels. I have Tomei type B poncams in mine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 its just i can get a set of HKS cheap lik 499 new Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_GTR Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 The HKS cams dont have enough lift in my opinion. You would get better results with the Tomei's. Better to spend the money right the first time. I think its been proven many times that Tomei Poncams are the best cam solution for GTR. They run the most lift of all the "drop-in" type cams which i think is important when choosing cams. More lift equals more air to breathe. If you just wanna shift your powerband earlier, get a set of cam wheels fitted and dialled in. This will bring power on earlier, but at the expense of top end power dropping off earlier. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 The HKS cams dont have enough lift in my opinion. You would get better results with the Tomei's. Better to spend the money right the first time. I think its been proven many times that Tomei Poncams are the best cam solution for GTR. They run the most lift of all the "drop-in" type cams which i think is important when choosing cams. More lift equals more air to breathe.If you just wanna shift your powerband earlier, get a set of cam wheels fitted and dialled in. This will bring power on earlier, but at the expense of top end power dropping off earlier. so keep the standered cams and get some cam wheels? but surely HKS is still better than standered? Cos i doubt ill ever spend 1000 on poncams Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_GTR Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) so keep the standered cams and get some cam wheels?but surely HKS is still better than standered? Cos i doubt ill ever spend 1000 on poncams Yeah, HKS would be better than standard of course. But the Tomei's even better ..Tomei's would give a greater peak power/torque throughout the rev-range compared to a similar duration HKS cam i think. (Which is the reason most do a cam upgrade) What are the specs of the HKS cams you were looking at? Durations/lift specs? Think about what your end result/goal of your car is, and whats gonna work better for you in the long run. If your on a tight budget, then there may be other areas of your car you can upgrade and get better value for $$$ per KW Someone on the forum may have used the same HKS cams in their car, hopefully they will find this post and give an opinion from experience Edited December 28, 2007 by Blue_GTR Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 HKS DURALUMIN+ Ni PLATING cam gears. item number are.. 22004-AN002 RB exhaust, 22004-AN002 RB intake Thats all i know about them and ive tried searching cant find anything... hmmmm can anyone shed some light on them?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 its just i can get a set of HKS cheap lik 499 new Brand new Intake & Exhaust side HKS cams for $499? I don't think so. For your application the Tomei Type B Poncams are the best choice. The Tomei Type B package that includes Tomei Duralumin cam gears is a very good option Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 We don't run any cams in RB26's without valve spring upgrades. The standard valve seat pressure is abismal, so the rule of thumb steps we use are; Up to 9 mm lift = shim the standard valve springs 9 mm to 10 mm = Performance Springs, best value for money and shimmable to achieve the seat pressure desired Over 10 mm = Jun valve springs, simply the best. Keep in mind the MINOR releaving of the head to clear the cam lobes (not a biggy, but necessary) All of the above can be accomplished without removing the cylinder head ie; done it situ in the engine bay. You want more low down performance, TURN UP THE BOOST, nothing else works as well and is that simple. Happy New Year Gary Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 Brand new Intake & Exhaust side HKS cams for $499? I don't think so.For your application the Tomei Type B Poncams are the best choice. The Tomei Type B package that includes Tomei Duralumin cam gears is a very good option on its from a mate whos not using them now. let me guess oncams over a grand? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 We don't run any cams in RB26's without valve spring upgrades. The standard valve seat pressure is abismal, so the rule of thumb steps we use are;Up to 9 mm lift = shim the standard valve springs 9 mm to 10 mm = Performance Springs, best value for money and shimmable to achieve the seat pressure desired Over 10 mm = Jun valve springs, simply the best. Keep in mind the MINOR releaving of the head to clear the cam lobes (not a biggy, but necessary) All of the above can be accomplished without removing the cylinder head ie; done it situ in the engine bay. You want more low down performance, TURN UP THE BOOST, nothing else works as well and is that simple. Happy New Year Gary cheers for that... you wouldnt know the specs of the above mentioned HKS cams? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dont Forget the new GREDDY easy cams, direct fit, supplied as a matched pair with all the centreline checked so that they (in most cases dont need dialing in) , cheap and all have new profiles ground off a brand new machine. 256 9.1mm lift or 264 9.1mm lift available. http://www.trust-power.com/spec_swf/05engi...mshaft_easy.swf Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 If your on a tight budget, then there may be other areas of your car you can upgrade and get better value for $$$ per KW I am on a tightish budget... my cars stockish.. has a trust intercooler, n1 turbos and triple plate clutch... Buying Turbo back exhaust (unsure what diamater yet or twin/single. ideas?) Power FC and controller Boost controller (the add on one to the power fc) Apexi intake... then i have around 500 left and thats what ive talked my mate down to wid the cams..... 500 better spent any where else then?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I am on a tightish budget...my cars stockish.. has a trust intercooler, n1 turbos and triple plate clutch... Buying Turbo back exhaust (unsure what diamater yet or twin/single. ideas?) Power FC and controller Boost controller (the add on one to the power fc) Apexi intake... then i have around 500 left and thats what ive talked my mate down to wid the cams..... 500 better spent any where else then?? TUNE Cheers Gary Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 ^^^ good call, with your setup ADz you should see reasonable power as it is with a decent tune. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) ^^^ good call, with your setup ADz you should see reasonable power as it is with a decent tune. oh hey ive budgeted for a tune, sorry didnt put that.. still have around 500 left over... cam gears worth it on standered cams? what kws est would u think that set up could make>? Edited December 28, 2007 by Adz2332 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
260tech Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 HKS DURALUMIN+ Ni PLATING cam gears. item number are.. 22004-AN002 RB exhaust, 22004-AN002 RB intakeThats all i know about them and ive tried searching cant find anything... hmmmm can anyone shed some light on them?? Hi there, just a dumb question if it hasn't already been asked, $499 quoted is for HKS cams or HKS cam gears only? Cheers GW Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 Hi there, just a dumb question if it hasn't already been asked, $499 quoted is for HKS cams or HKS cam gears only?Cheers GW na na not from a shop!!! mate has them selling cheap to me! mates rates lol and no cam gears Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/199301-sorted/#findComment-3553711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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