Aircon Regassers In Melbourne That Use Hychill Hr12 Gas

[eron]

I called 1 automative aircon servicing workshop and asked for hychill. The guy told me hychill was banned in 3 states. I was like what... Not that I believe him. He was pretty against hychill for sure. Kar Air does the aircon servicing for $99. No Hychill though.

The hunt for a good place with hychill continues.

[xALmoN]

As stated in an earlier post (although in 2008 lol), JNK Auto does HyChill...

I just called them up now and spoke to Tim. What a champ, he spent like 20mins chatting to me about it explaining it all. Good thing was he was honest and said he is still acquiring his licence to do ac gassing and he doesn't personally do it, his boss does (John). Shows to me he's pretty clued up even though he doesn't personally do it.

Anyway, I'm book in for next week. Their contact number is 9873 2622, located in Mitcham.

Cheers,

Andy

Edit: Quoted $132 GST inclusive for the full works (i.e. full flush, lube and dye, and recharge etc.).

does anybody know if his place still does hychill regassing? my ac isn't that cold and summer is coming..

i could give him a call, but i'm hardly coherent over the phone, due to my weird accent.

[R31Nismoid]

Blackburn to Mitcham - go down there and ask

[Rolls]

Going to get this done on Monday, will report back with how it performs.

Now I have a question regarding the propaganda stories, if it works as well as it does why don't the big f-gas companies just start manufacturing hydrocarbon based refrigerants as well as the fluorocarbon ones?

Is it patented? If not I can't work out why they don't just manufacture both products side by side, surely it would be more revenue and save wasting money on propaganda bs to scare everyone off.

[THENIG]

Going to get this done on Monday, will report back with how it performs.

Now I have a question regarding the propaganda stories, if it works as well as it does why don't the big f-gas companies just start manufacturing hydrocarbon based refrigerants as well as the fluorocarbon ones?

Is it patented? If not I can't work out why they don't just manufacture both products side by side, surely it would be more revenue and save wasting money on propaganda bs to scare everyone off.

Any news yet on how it went?? I need to find somewhere in melbourne that will repair/replace an aircon line near the firewall on my 32.

Interesting thing happened last weekend whislt at a track day at Sandown last weekend. After 4th session of the day whilst car was sitting in a pit garage with engine idling, the aircon line near the firewall let go all of a sudden, hissing all the gas out of the system in about 20sec right into the turbo/dump pipe area which was almost red hot. Not sure how it would have ended if I had Hr12 in the system.

Now I know it has been discussed in some detail in this thread on the flammability of Hr12 compared to the R134a. Would a hot dump pipe be enough to trigger ignition considering that there was still alot of air being drawn through the engine bay by the clutch fan? Would that be enough to disperse and dilute the gas so it wouldn't ignite? Once the aircon line is fixed I am going to wrap all the hoses in that area but am still a bit weary about getting it re gassed with Hychill. The benefits really do make it a good proposition, am I being over cautious thinking that Hychill would ignite in that situation if it happened again?

I was reading this thread a couple of weeks ago thinking that this wouldn't be a bad idea coming into summer but am a bit weary about it now.

[Rolls]

I had the monday off work and hence my calendar didn't remind me so I completely forgot, called the guy back a few times but haven't managed to get through. The distributor gave me some more numbers to call though so when I get some more time I'll be going with them, might give them a buzz now actually.

Will definitely report back once it is done though.

Personally I think the fact it is more flammable is a complete non issue, you have plastic fuel lines in your engine bay, if things are getting hot enough to melt a compressor and make it leak then you have bigger issues at hand, that and it is such a small quantity, it would most likely make a nasty pop and damage some lines if you managed to release it all at once, mix it in the right ratio with air and then ignite it. It would be far more likely to leak out very slowly over time.

So even if it was pure propane gas I wouldn't be too worried. I mean people run their cars on LPG without any serious issues so I don't see how this deserves more attention than normal gas systems do.

Edited September 28, 2010 by Rolls

[THENIG]

Sorry for confusion, compressor is fine, its the aircon fitting/line right where it goes through the firewall, right next to the exhaust housing & dump pip . Thats where the gas hissed out of. The HKS dump pipe is only a few cm's away from the line, should have known better & thermal wrapped it before.

I am not too concerned bout fuel leaking a bit causing a fire, I have driven the car around for months with a leaky injector in the past. Heat from the engine was enough to evaporate it straight away, also that side of the engine bay is generally a lot cooler. Gas spewing bursting out straight onto dump pipe however...... not too sure.

[Rolls]

Any news yet on how it went??

Just had it done this arvo, I never had the air con working before so I can't compare how well it works, now the car was sitting in the sun all day and the glass/doors were too hot to touch but it managed to get it cool enough to stop sweating inside.

One of my vents is busted so it doesn't feel as cold as it should, but the air coming out the vents is very chilly, compressor doesn't seem to suck much power either as I can still spin 2nd in the dry slowly rolling onto throttle.

Can't really say how much better it is, but it is certainly not worse! Cost $150 cause I got a call out guy to come do it along with putting the oil and die in as mine had the gas let out for compliance. Bloke was Bruce from dial a auto regas to come do it here in Adelaide, very friendly guy and I would recommend him to any people here in SA, number is 0411 745 511, was almost as interested in my car as the actual air con lol.

[THENIG]

Good to know, now I just need to find someone in Melbourne who offers the same kind of service.

[Rolls]

Just thought I'd report back, I had a jammed vent so my ac was barely blowing at all, fixed that and it is ridiculously cold now, have to turn it down unless it is a 30+ degree day.

definitely recommend.

[Sarumatix]

The reason major companies wont use HyChill, is because it's just a mix of propane and butane.. which is quite obviously not patentable and hence and jo blo can mix it and sell it and not charge ridiculous amounts of money that the old CFC based refrigerants were. If you have the old gas (R22) then HyChill is perfectly safe, with the newer gases you need to flush the whole system (cause that shit is big time toxic) which can be cost prohibitive (and that's another whole conspiracy can of beans )

[koreyr]

This guy uses hychill for older cars and r134A for newer cars he knows what he is doing http://icemanmobile.com.au/ he told me that the seals on the newer cars will leak hydrocarbin and the older cars around 2005 or below should be o.k. Did a ring around and finally found out it was true. Info i got was from a local tafe that do the aircon training. They have no reason to to lie basically and they know their stuff.

[jukic.j]

Link no longer works. Can you still get hychill today?

Is it still the best option? Have the prices changed much? I was quoted a weeks wait and $200+ from a few places and no sign of hychill

Edited November 30, 2012 by jukic.j

[R31Nismoid]

Google works if you need to find things

$200 sounds right - thank Julia for that price hike

[Rolls]

$150 is what I paid.

[jukic.j]

Google works if you need to find things

Thanks captain obvious... I used Google, then I trawled the threads here and i've also been to 6 businesses that do air-con re-gassing and some of them even did the ring around and no luck.

Edited December 1, 2012 by jukic.j

[Rolls]

Ring the hychill distributor, that is what I did.

[jukic.j]

Yeah well I went on their website and they listed Burson as distributor but I went to one place, they didn't have it and I asked for directions to Burson and they rang Burson as they are associated workshops they said they know nothing about it -.-

So I emailed hychill and waiting on response from that.

[jukic.j]

Surely someone here has gotten their aircon regassed for this summer on hychill?

#doublepost

Edited December 1, 2012 by jukic.j

[Rolls]

Yes I did.

CALL them, don't email.