Koni Shocks

[Adz2332]

Hey all,

Have ordered some konis from Autobarn (only cos they had 20% off!) but the guy knew very little about them and getting info from him was impossiable. but he did mention they had a slight height adjustment on them, is this true? If so how much height adjustment is there on them?

Plus anyone used them? any good?

There to suit a GTR 33.

Cheers

[nuffsaid]

I don't think they have any height adjustment. Probably only damper.

[Adz2332]

I don't think they have any height adjustment. Probably only damper.

stupid question... damper is...?

[R DIRTY 3]

The height is Adjustable by a circlip set up, similar to the bilsteins. The Damper (or shock absorber) is rebound adjustable only, but leave them on the softest rebound setting.

The rears are valved quite hard! You have been warned. lol

I suggest you get them revalved before you fit them.

[Adz2332]

The height is Adjustable by a circlip set up, similar to the bilsteins. The Damper (or shock absorber) is rebound adjustable only, but leave them on the softest rebound setting.

The rears are valved quite hard! You have been warned. lol

I suggest you get them revalved before you fit them.

so they are slightly height adjustable?? to how much lower??

revalved?? explain?

[R DIRTY 3]

so they are slightly height adjustable?? to how much lower??

revalved?? explain?

The spring seat can be lowered to give a height drop of around 15-20mm. Not much at all. However, they can be regrooved if you feel you need it to go lower.

The problem with the Koni Rear Shock is the "bump" is very strong due to the develpoment work being done in Japan. (and we all know how Japan do things). They really do need to come down a few valve numbers to smooth off the bump. Toperformance in Melb will be able to advise you further on the revalve, but you will have to pay for it of course.

Why did you choose to go a Koni over a Bilstein or similar if you dont mind me asking?

Was it purely the discount?

[Adz2332]

The spring seat can be lowered to give a height drop of around 15-20mm. Not much at all. However, they can be regrooved if you feel you need it to go lower.

The problem with the Koni Rear Shock is the "bump" is very strong due to the develpoment work being done in Japan. (and we all know how Japan do things). They really do need to come down a few valve numbers to smooth off the bump. Toperformance in Melb will be able to advise you further on the revalve, but you will have to pay for it of course.

Why did you choose to go a Koni over a Bilstein or similar if you dont mind me asking?

Was it purely the discount?

yep only because of the price i can get them around 400 cheaper than bilstein... when you say bump you just mean the rear will be hard as hell?

and 20mm lower is something id do also... that sounds good

[B0oStEr]

Of course ride height will be determined by spring choice.

I fitted kings lows and had to have new grooves machined in my konis for a higher ride height just to keep guard to wheel-centre measurement at 340mm.

Top Performance quoted me $250 to $300 a pair to revalve my konis.

[Adz2332]

Of course ride height will be determined by spring choice.

I fitted kings lows and had to have new grooves machined in my konis for a higher ride height just to keep guard to wheel-centre measurement at 340mm.

Top Performance quoted me $250 to $300 a pair to revalve my konis.

but what does revalve mean???

[R DIRTY 3]

To revalve, the shock absorber needs to be opened up, stripped and the valve needs to be changed to make it softer. Valving is what determines how hard/soft the shock is. Im sure there is a thread on here explaining how the shock works. Check it out and read it and you will probably understand it more.

Konis will be hard as hell. Take it from experience

It would have been worth spending the extra $$ on something else because by the time you pay to revalve, it wont be cheap

[Adz2332]

To revalve, the shock absorber needs to be opened up, stripped and the valve needs to be changed to make it softer. Valving is what determines how hard/soft the shock is. Im sure there is a thread on here explaining how the shock works. Check it out and read it and you will probably understand it more.

Konis will be hard as hell. Take it from experience

It would have been worth spending the extra $$ on something else because by the time you pay to revalve, it wont be cheap

but hey lets face it i was going to put coilovers on and im betting the shocks will be a softer better ride than coilovers!

[R DIRTY 3]

If i were a betting man, id bet they are not softer lol

[Adz2332]

If i were a betting man, id bet they are not softer lol

haha reali and your just talking rears?? the fronts ok?

so set them all to softest setting and see what its like and go from there?

[R DIRTY 3]

Yeah the rears are the problem lol

You can get them revalved later if you need so chuck them on.

Let me know if i am right

[Adz2332]

Yeah the rears are the problem lol

You can get them revalved later if you need so chuck them on.

Let me know if i am right

yer ill have to put them on asap... have no car at the moment! lol

but i will let u kno! lol

cheers for the info

[heller44]

Adam, I recently had installed a set of koni's with kings lows on my 32, sold to me by R DIRTY 3 and fitted as well.

Only had the car on the road for about 2 weeks afterwards, no track or anything. I had to increase the damping on the fronts to make the car feel more balanced as the fronts felt almost bouncy compared to the rears which felt settled from the word go.

Felt very nice on the roads that I drive on normally.

Hope you like them..

[khunjeng]

I have Konis (yellow) damp adjust. and Bilstien in another.

The damp. adjust to soft makes a lot of difference in rebound and they are not hard as hell form my experience. Problem is that the rears are not as easy as the fronts to adjust so try and setup the backs properly. I ended up with a 65% setting and just adjust the front when I want. Seem to be a good shock.

Your spring rate will also be key in this process...

[_Ryan_]

i'm not a fan of koni's... i can organise re-valving to suit individual cars, if needed, PM me.

By the time you factor in re-valving, you could of stretched the bilsteins... I have koni reds in one car, and have had/have bilsteins in others, i prefer the bilsteins. I am selling some 10k km old fronts for a 33gtr if interested.

-Ryan

[Sydneykid]

Koni make a good shock, we use them in lots of cars, just not in Skylines. Why? Because the Japanese Koni agent specified the valving, not the Koni engineers in Holland. The Koni adjustment only affects the rebound (extension) damping, not the bumop (compression) damping. So "softening" them doesn't improve the impact harshness. Accessing the rear shock adjustment is OK on R32's, where the strut top is at the inner wheel arch in the boot. But it is rather difficult on R33/34's as the strut top is located up under the rear parcel shelf.

Cheers

Gary

[Adz2332]

pffft konis from auto barn fell through! stay away from auto barn!!! first gave me wrong price.. second ordered me GTST shocks. third because its xmas and they stuffed up my order cant get them for a round 2 weeks! AUTOBARN NO NO!