2008 F1 Season

[Roy]

More shots of KR's mrs in the ferrari garage are more than welcomed

Was that Kimi's Mrs? LOL now i know why i like the man

[Kaido_RR]

what a drive from massa, from all you people that said he couldn't drive. stick it in ur pipe and smoke it!! he show that he had the pace and skill to win this race (only 1 lap lighter than ham.)

very unlucky about the engine failure but thats racing.

good work by kimi getting some points, lets hope it helps you left ur game

and

Oh, and burn in hell Massa. This is fate's way of telling you that you dont deserve where you are... get alonso in there

again, Hill and brundle for 09.... do it

get off the crack pipe....

Edited August 3, 2008 by [Michael]

[Roy]

Well i have to say since seing how Massa went alongside MS his first year at Ferrari, well i have liked watching him mature and battle away. This year has been a nig step forward for him, though the German GP result made me ill.

Perhaps i should have had a little more faith in how he has been driving this year, as he was brilliant in the opening lap, looked after his tyres to the point where he could start to punch out laps to pull a gap on Lewis. It was a good race for him, shame to see it taken from him, but thats racing

So, tonights performance means i have wiped Germany from my memory, will see if he continues his 2008 form at European GP. Go Massa, cant believe Kimi has goen so long with quick race pace but less then average points haul

[bnr#@]

How can anyone say that massa cat drive after that i dont know... He got off the line soooo much better then both mac's and kept increasing his lead steadily over the rest without being lighter (1 lap is prety much fark all).

[Marco-R34GTT]

Any way I can stream a replay.. I was working, sounded like a sick race...

Oh Adam, I distinctly recall you saying it would be a bigmac 1-2..

Soz bud...

[lingeringsoul]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 I was seriously gonna vomit up blood when the engine failed.....the perfect start, the perfect race, the again, Ferrari failed massa. I have a long list of expletives I'd like to scream out but I'm too distraught.

What the hell is wrong with Kimmi? He's obvious got the pace but iot just felt he was so lethargic following alonso around. Didn't look like he was fighting for the WDC at all, but the last 15 laps were brilliant.

[Michele]

Any way I can stream a replay.. I was working, sounded like a sick race...

http://tvunderground.org.ru/index.php?show...s&sid=19949

[brent32]

To the massa fans who believe their hero is being unfairly berated as a crap driver i say wake up he only pulled a 4 second gap on lewis hardly a thrashing, at silverstone in the rain (the great equalizer that slow teams pray for) he was the worst driver on the grid.

Ferrari would be mad not to replace massa at the end of the year.

how good was timo glock that was a great drive for toyota.

[Roy]

But you say he sux for only pulling a 4 second lead. It was down to 2 seconds, he consrved the tyres from graining and as the car came to him and the pit stop loomed he pulled the gap out to a tad over 4 seconds, enough that Lewis couldnt get near him in teh first pit stop. Then again as the tyres came good he was quick as he needed to be and most importantly when he needed to be.

I think it was a mature and supreme drive. When Lewis had his problem he was no threat to him at all.

[m3gtr]

How do you know his tyres were or werent graining?

Got a little birdie there i can borrow perhaps?

Massa is hopeless in the rain.

Agreed?

Ofcourse. He is a good dry track racer and he seems to prefer medium length flowing courses. Hungary is one such track.

He isnt the best on the grid but he does know how to dance...just dont do a rain dance.

I will agree 4 seconds is very little and LH was plain unlucky to pick up a puncture - it ruined what couldve been a grandstand finish...

I cant take anything away from Heikki although i will say he was nowhere to the 2 infront of him - a very lonely 3rd who was in the right place at the right time...I wish that would happen to Webber now and then...

Kimi really pisses me off. The lumbering idiot trundled around looking like a guy who was taking the day off, la de farkin da, then all of a sudden, WHAM, hes got the fastest lap and reeling in Glock??!!

Someone slap the Finn upside the head and tell him to stop smoking crack behind the wheel.

One more thing - this was yet another example of Mr Invisible, Mark Webber, literally going backwards down the order and then miraculously, just vanishing.

Ive never seen a driver quite like that. Hes either up there or hes nowhere to be seen!

Amazing...I think i saw him twice that whole GP.

For all you Hammo haters out there in Hater land, consider this. Despite the idiocy of the ITV wankers, Lewis made a pretty good start and Massa got a blinder - theres not much you can do to counter when someone gets a start like that. LH was reeling in FM around the time for the forst stop - actually the gap was down to 2.5 seconds and he then got baulked by one of the Hondas.

LH had the pace - so did the Ferrari, and whos to say LH wasnt carrying 3 or 4 laps more fuel in the car - its entirely plausible considering Mac having to shuffle the strategy to compensate for LH losing the lead at turn 1 at the first pitstop.

LH, without that puncture would either have won the race when massa blew up at the end or overtaken him at the stops.

I doubt Massa would have won last night but man, that was a blow to the nuts the way his engine let go...

Youd never have seen that happening to MS...

[lingeringsoul]

Come on ferrari, Maccas reliability is putting you to shame

I just don't get kimi, quite a few races, he's had a lazy start and mid way through when he has clear air, he goes demolishes everyone's best time but then that's alway not enough when you are starting midway through. I really wish he could just go agro at the start and take it easy at the end.

[Marco-R34GTT]

http://tvunderground.org.ru/index.php?show...s&sid=19949

The Hungarian link no work brah!

[m3gtr]

The Hungarian link no work brah!

http://www.racing-underground.com

You can thank me later...

[Kaido_RR]

For all you Hammo haters out there in Hater land, consider this. Despite the idiocy of the ITV wankers, Lewis made a pretty good start and Massa got a blinder - theres not much you can do to counter when someone gets a start like that. LH was reeling in FM around the time for the forst stop - actually the gap was down to 2.5 seconds and he then got baulked by one of the Hondas.

lol, they both had to pass the honda; if Hamilton couldn't get around him thats his problem don't blame the honda. and no he was not catching Massa your dreaming. Yes Hamilton was fast but not fast enough to catch massa.

by the way im not a hater, i just watch the race and try not to get super fan boy like some people

[ctjet]

Q: (Erkki Mustakari – STT) Heikki, the next race will be in three weeks. That gives you two and a half weeks to celebrate. How are you going to celebrate your first Formula One win?

HK: Any ideas, Kimi?

KR: I will take him out

lol

[Roy]

How do you know his tyres were or werent graining?

Got a little birdie there i can borrow perhaps?

Massa is hopeless in the rain.

Agreed?

Ofcourse. He is a good dry track racer and he seems to prefer medium length flowing courses. Hungary is one such track.

He isnt the best on the grid but he does know how to dance...just dont do a rain dance.

I will agree 4 seconds is very little and LH was plain unlucky to pick up a puncture - it ruined what couldve been a grandstand finish...

I cant take anything away from Heikki although i will say he was nowhere to the 2 infront of him - a very lonely 3rd who was in the right place at the right time...I wish that would happen to Webber now and then...

Kimi really pisses me off. The lumbering idiot trundled around looking like a guy who was taking the day off, la de farkin da, then all of a sudden, WHAM, hes got the fastest lap and reeling in Glock??!!

Someone slap the Finn upside the head and tell him to stop smoking crack behind the wheel.

One more thing - this was yet another example of Mr Invisible, Mark Webber, literally going backwards down the order and then miraculously, just vanishing.

Ive never seen a driver quite like that. Hes either up there or hes nowhere to be seen!

Amazing...I think i saw him twice that whole GP.

For all you Hammo haters out there in Hater land, consider this. Despite the idiocy of the ITV wankers, Lewis made a pretty good start and Massa got a blinder - theres not much you can do to counter when someone gets a start like that. LH was reeling in FM around the time for the forst stop - actually the gap was down to 2.5 seconds and he then got baulked by one of the Hondas.

LH had the pace - so did the Ferrari, and whos to say LH wasnt carrying 3 or 4 laps more fuel in the car - its entirely plausible considering Mac having to shuffle the strategy to compensate for LH losing the lead at turn 1 at the first pitstop.

LH, without that puncture would either have won the race when massa blew up at the end or overtaken him at the stops.

I doubt Massa would have won last night but man, that was a blow to the nuts the way his engine let go...

Youd never have seen that happening to MS...

Its a simple observation. After a few laps LH started to reel in FM. But from the mid point of the interval to the first pit stop Massa had superior pace and started to consistantly pull tenths on Lewis. I could be wrong, that just tells me he managed his tyres better and when he needed the car under him to punch out the quicker laps to keep him ahead of Lewis he was able to. Lewis couldnt respond in the final laps leading up to the pit stop. He would have been trying as the easiest way to get past the leader of a GP is to do a MS/KR like blinder lap or two followed by in and out laps. Like i said, simple observation...and i think i am on the money.

Lewis did get a puncture, but i coudlnt see him getting near Massa without Massa having a problem. He didnt take on more fuel/laps, hsi stationary time was the same as Massas.

Lewis was beaten in a straight up fight this weekend. Its not the end of the world. Every bloke has his day and this weekend was not Lewis'. We will see how he goes into the end of the season where Ferrari have traditionally been strong.

[sh@un]

lol @ NP pushing JT off the track...

could it be that the guy has found his feet?

more like JT having to take evasive action in response to PK's wayward driving. was well scrappy.

Where the hell is Webbo?

nowhere, as per usual

ima go out on a limb and categorically state that this guy will never win a race (forget about the WDC), regardless of whatever car He's in, save for him 'doing a Bradbury' and getting favourable accident/pace car conditions or other cars getting DNFs

never say never? i'm saying NEVER!

...never

[Kinks]

what a drive from massa, from all you people that said he couldn't drive. stick it in ur pipe and smoke it!!

Massa can drive he just can't race. Massa leading from lap 1 on a dry track with his car sorted is unstoppable, he just bangs in hotlap after hotlap. Wheel to wheel racing, pressure from other drivers or wet conditions? Hopeless. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after his first lap move, after the way he let louise through last race I didn't think he had any balls left. I guess he was just saving them up. I'm not out of line by calling that move totally uncharacteristic, but I was very impressed I must say.

Kimi - woeful performance. He just orbited until 2nd pit stop and he could pass Alonso, then put in some hot laps to show he was quick. Big deal! You should be trying to find a way past, even Alonso can make mistakes (as evidenced last race, he got the shits and his driving became very ragged).

Lewis is a standout impressive driver. I'd be very surprised if he didn't take the prize this year.

[Kaido_RR]

Kimi told to slow down

Worried Ferrari reveal second reliability failure

Monday 4th August 2008

Fresh focus on Ferrari's level of reliability has been cast after the team revealed that Kimi Raikkonen was forced to slow down at the end of the Hungarian GP due to a problem that was unrelated to Felipe Massa's sudden engine blow.

Massa's misfortune was the second time in barely a month when a Ferrari driver had lost a race due to mechanical unreliability, although on that occasion, in France, he was the beneficiary as he inherited a win from a luckless Raikkonen. While the high-profile malfunction of his engine in Hungary has inevitably caused embarrassment at Ferrari, the team have also confirmed that Raikkonen had to end his pursuit of Timo Glock and second place in Budapest after they spotted another problem with his car.

"We just asked him to slow down in the same lap as we had the failure of Felipe," revealed team boss Stefano Domenicali. "We saw there was something on the mechanical side on the rear that was not properly working so we said that, on the same lap, to bring the car home."

Having just ordered Raikkonen to slow down, the team then suffered the ignominious shock of Massa's car crawling to a halt in front of their pitwall with smoke billowing from its broken engine. "Unfortunately we had no warning, we just had the smoke in front of us, and it was very bad," lamented Domenicali.

"Unfortunately there was no signal, no information, no warning on the telemetry."

With Ferrari collecting a paltry six points in Hungary rather than a probable eighteen but for their reliability woes, McLaren were able to narrow the gap to their rivals in the Constructors' Championship to a mere ten points. F1 is taking a three-week break before it returns to action in Valencia on August 24 but Ferrari's engineers should be braced for some hard work and long nights in the meantime.

"We cannot accept to have this kind of problems, even if it was only 10 kilometers from the end, we cannot have this problem of reliability because we are paying too

much of a price for it," rued Domenicali.

[brent32]

the race had its moments but mostly it was hamiltons/massa's mechanical failures and the first two laps that provided any entertainment.

i think circuits like this where the cars are running higher downforce and the lack of corners suitable for

overtaking meant it was harder for the real racers to shine, hence a race dominated by strategicly timed pitstops. i think Kimi and lewis both proved why they are the better raceday drivers despite massa leading for so long and heikki finishing in front of hamilton.

yeah i know LH could have managed his tyre usage better but isn t it the maclaren teams job to comunicate any potential in race tyre wear issues to their driver before it punctures.

i find it a little surprising webbers one lap pace and good qualifying skills didn t translate to a better result. Maybe the dip in red bulls performance is due to the dreaded "we are developing next years car" syndrome.