2008 F1 Season

[Marco-R34GTT]

I smell mass damper bullshit again!

U reckon??

I mean gonzo could be running light for the home crowd... 3 or 4 stopper even???

[m3gtr]

I dont think its a pub stunt. Look at PK junior...right up there until the end of Q3 when he dropped the load. Hes got no home town issues to deal with like Gonzo does. Teh car has found an absolute shitload of pace and from where??? Fecked if i know.

Renault have some smartiez in their fold and we know they know what theyre doin,...

I just cannot fer teh life of me figure out where all this pace came from>>>>

I dont care if some think im anti renault. Im not...but this..THIS is a shock.

Gonzo was struglin to hold down 12th a race ago and now hes starting from the front row! WTF indeed!

Edited April 26, 2008 by m3gtr

[Marco-R34GTT]

I agree...

WTF indeed...

I mean... 4 stopper, with aero and other improvements...

Nah... Not possible... Surely..

[Roy]

Ive been thinking about this for half an hour now and i still dont get it...

Either their RIDICULOUSLY light for the start or they found this time in spite of the fact it has taken teams years to bridge these gaps...years in comparison to Renault finding that time in 2 frickin weeks...

I smell mass damper bullshit again!

Smell? They have come out and told the world they hoped for good gains with their new aero, front suspension and a return to a system similar to the mas damper but within the regulations dictated by the FIA. They have mae no secret that they were hoping this big round of changes was going to help. Whether they are now a top 3 team remains to be seen.

My feeling is they are probably about the 4th fastest team, because even if they are light on fuel, they are moving in the right direction and typically Williams lose their way mid year, Toyota's pace always falls off after a strong start. So that only leaves RBR and like Renault they are relying on one driver at the moment...

Cant wait for 10:50pm tonight Will be real interesting to see Mclaren. We keep hearung about Louise in GP2 and his ability to come from behind. Well we havent seen this in F1 yet...so lets see what the y boy can do with the sort of pressure that WDCs wear

[wolverine]

the revised mass damper etc seems to have closed the gap but i reckon he will be first to stop. he appeared to be very light and besides it gave the crowd something to cheer.

presumably he will get off the line pretty well and beat raikkonen for first lap honours.

[Roy]

Reanult do seem to havea good map for drivabil;ity and launching the car from the line. Hell, it even means Mark gets the RBR off the line pretty well these days.

Hoping Alonso gets out front. Probably sops early and races for a strong top 4 finish. With Webber home in 5th as Massa gets caught up with a fast starting Louise meaning the top spots will be up for grabs

[Whiplash]

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[lingeringsoul]

hmm....says alonzo was running very light fuel load. Quite a shocker seeing renault quali second. Maybe he can pull something out of this ass and get onto that podium. As for the iceman, better not do anything silly and have a clean race.

Good job to Webber and Truli on the qualifying, now stay out of trouble and get some more points!!!!

[m3gtr]

http://mad-max.coolpage.biz/simulcastPlayer_02.swf

this one should work

what time is 1 pm for us then>? Is that 1pm spain time or 1pm in britain?

btw, feck renaults mass damper. No one and i mean NO-ONE goes out and in the space of 2 weeks finds nearly 2 seconds. I dont care what they changed. There is no way on God's green earth that revised damper is worth 2 seconds.

Thats absolutely preposterous even if hes running light.

[benm]

I think Renault are just running light for the home crowd - I know I would run light if it was me.

DC is the biggest shock at 19th, although I think he will be 12th by the end of lap 2.

[wolverine]

from raikkonen there was only 0.7 of a second to heidfeld in 9th.

it doesn't look like renault found 2secs. maybe 0.5sec max but allowing for light fuel load +/- 0.2sec

[Marco-R34GTT]

DC is the biggest shock at 19th, although I think he will be 12th by the end of lap 2.

Said something about him qualifying on the prime tyre... True that Coulthard does have a knack of climbing up the field at race starts too... I agree, top 10 by lap 2 or 3..

[lingeringsoul]

lol I was just reading about mass dampers on renault car.............they used it in 2005 and 2006 which coincidentally were the years they won the championships. hmmmm interesting

[m3gtr]

Well, at that time the F.I.A as in the Ferrari Intervention Association kicked up a major stink on behalf of you know who because Renault were handing their asses to them.

If Ferrari doesnt win then no one wins...simple as that.

If you can remember the mass damper was cleared prior to the start of the 2005 season - cleared by the FIA.

Ferrari wouldnt let it go because they were losing and lobbied the FIA to ban the damper based on a bullshit technicality.

Funny that considering Ferraris use of flexing wings, barge boards or floors! Ferrari in my mind should not have won the 2007 championship because of what happened in melbourne.

Edited April 27, 2008 by m3gtr

[lingeringsoul]

I'm still confused about the sudden loss of form for Ferrari back in 05 and 06. It just seems they were so shit, was it really because renault was way faster or that ferrari was way off in lala land during these two years?

[Marco-R34GTT]

If Ferrari doesnt win then no one wins...simple as that.

eerrrrrrr... 21 years of not winning a championship??

21 years of Domination from Williams, McLaren and Bennetton???

Have you had your head on the ground or something???

[m3gtr]

I think Renault are just running light for the home crowd - I know I would run light if it was me.

DC is the biggest shock at 19th, although I think he will be 12th by the end of lap 2.

Hes definitely running light but if the times are anything to go by, he will have to come in after around lap 8 to 10...thats pointless if you ask me and how could anyone think it would be conducive to a top 8 spot, let alone the podium is beyond me right now..

Im just going to have to wait and see. Im going to watch Gonzos progress this round very carefully.

DC is getting to old for this stuff. Enjoy this season because i have no doubt he will retire at the end of the year.

[m3gtr]

eerrrrrrr... 21 years of not winning a championship??

21 years of Domination from Williams, McLaren and Bennetton???

Have you had your head on the ground or something???

No no, youve got me wrong. Im talking modern day, Schumi, Brawn, Todt, Stepney era...

Think about how much Ferrari have kicked up a stink when their domination was taken off them. They have looked for anything and everything to thwart the success of their rivals and have aired their dirty laundry publicly on many occasions. They have acted like the spoilt kid throwing the toys out of the pram when they werent winning.

It made me sick to see them crying to the FIA over Renaults mass dampers because, plainly, Renault were kicking ferraris ass with technology they developed and Ferrari werent happy. They kick and scream, dampers are banned and theyre back in the hunt again! see what the odd tantrum can get you?

It got McLaren thrown out of the championship last year despite the fact both teams had protagonists involved.

Edited April 27, 2008 by m3gtr

[lingeringsoul]

Hes definitely running light but if the times are anything to go by, he will have to come in after around lap 8 to 10...thats pointless if you ask me and how could anyone think it would be conducive to a top 8 spot, let alone the podium is beyond me right now..

Im just going to have to wait and see. Im going to watch Gonzos progress this round very carefully.

DC is getting to old for this stuff. Enjoy this season because i have no doubt he will retire at the end of the year.

maybe he's getting a few fast laps in, pit, do another shorter stint, then come in fuel up and do the long stint til the end. Is that how it works?

[benm]

Because as you know with F1 track position is everything because unless you are a second or 2 a lap quicker its near impossible to overtake.

Run the car light at the start, get it on the front row or very close to it and either keep up with the car infront (instead of losing ground each lap) or if first place pull a couple of second gap, pit early before anyone else so that you get out in clear air so not to get held up and then run a longer middle stint holding up anyone behind you that you can (as Webber does in most races) and then pit the same time as everyone else on the 2nd stop and race to the flag.

Webber tends to run heavier than most, he might have ok track position (borderline top 10) but doesnt have a chance of catching the cars infront because he is so heavy. I'd rather see him qualify at about 5th every race, then either keep up with 4th or hold up 6th whilst on the lighter fuel load.

Unless your car is quite abit faster than everyone elses the races are pretty much set in the first 15 laps due to track position.

Edited April 27, 2008 by benm