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ctjet Grand Master

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I think that the same reason people despise the schum is mostly the same reason hamilton is widely disliked

The old argument of "Micheal keeps on winning because he has a sub-par teammate willing to do his donkey work for him, with an entire team who's sole goal is for their number 1 man to win at any cost"

The ferrari fans would argue "well because he was good enough to get himself into that position with his speed and techncal know how"

The same method of thinking is now for some reason NOT applied to lewis

Stop and ask yourself "WHY was he nurtured from such a young age?" and " WHY was all this investment thrown behind him?"

Surely the people at Woking are not fools. You dont become one of the most successful teams in history by backing duds. Ron obviously saw a kid with talent and did everything he could to make sure he was looked after financially.

Those who dislike him for what opportunities he was given are fools. One eyed, uneducated, dumb as dog shit fools

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m3gtr Grand Master

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I have a question. How is it that KR and FM have both won 1 race, finished 2nd twice and 3rd twice and yet KR has 35 points and FM has 34 points..???

:P:(

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m3gtr Grand Master

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I think that the same reason people despise the schum is mostly the same reason hamilton is widely disliked

The old argument of "Micheal keeps on winning because he has a sub-par teammate willing to do his donkey work for him, with an entire team who's sole goal is for their number 1 man to win at any cost"

The ferrari fans would argue "well because he was good enough to get himself into that position with his speed and techncal know how"

The same method of thinking is now for some reason NOT applied to lewis

Stop and ask yourself "WHY was he nurtured from such a young age?" and " WHY was all this investment thrown behind him?"

Surely the people at Woking are not fools. You dont become one of the most successful teams in history by backing duds. Ron obviously saw a kid with talent and did everything he could to make sure he was looked after financially.

Those who dislike him for what opportunities he was given are fools. One eyed, uneducated, dumb as dog shit fools

My point exactly Ivan. Its pretty ignorant of us to not look behind LH and see that Mercedes and RD were watching him all along. They spoke to AH and bobs your uncle - a deal was struck placing LH firmly in their fold. The rest didnt excatly take care of itself either...If LH was a dud behind the wheel, not even the best machinery on the planet couldve helped him...

Peeps gotta quit hatin on Hammo coz Merc and RD knew he had da Goodz/../_

m3gtr Grand Master

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?? KR and FM both have won 2 races.

KR has a 2nd and 3rd

FM has a 2nd and 3rd also

yeah.. wierd. Wjy has KR got 35 and FM 34?>???

Here...look.

http://www.planetf1.com/drivers/standings/0,19076,,00.html

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Beer Baron Grand Master

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how cool is it to see webber up in 6th in the WDC! and having scored points in the last 5 races with just the one non-points finish this year so far (which was a mechanical DNF). this must be his best start to a season yet by a long margin. it will be so great if he can keep plugging away in the 4th-8th region and keep bagging points he will find himself up near the top of the table at the end.

he is only 5 points off 5th place but a fairly meaty 17point of kubi.

ctjet Grand Master

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My point exactly Ivan. Its pretty ignorant of us to not look behind LH and see that Mercedes and RD were watching him all along. They spoke to AH and bobs your uncle - a deal was struck placing LH firmly in their fold. The rest didnt excatly take care of itself either...If LH was a dud behind the wheel, not even the best machinery on the planet couldve helped him...

Peeps gotta quit hatin on Hammo coz Merc and RD knew he had da Goodz/../_

you will find most scuderian's choose not to acknowledge this point

... as it may detract from von schummel's all around awesomeness

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Gts-t Grand Master

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Did anyone know hamilton actually started racing R/C cars before his dad bought him a go kart when he was about 6.

The guy has raw talent hes only 22 remember, just because he steps into a front running car and talks like a bit of a cocksmoker isnt a reason to hate him.

I also dont think that was a noob mistake by KR looked like he was trying to do the right thing, im sure he knows as well as anyone he just needs to finish and get some points every race. His sedate driving of late confims this for me.

Roy Grand Master

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Im sure hes learnt a tough lesson but he deserved it. LH on the other hand had absolutely nothing to do with the internal politiking going on...he was too green to know any better.

I think you are being a littlke naive thinking that the case. You only have to look at the events last year and its clear. Speaking to some ppl that know better then me during and after the Aus GP ....well lets just say that Lewis was every bit as ambitious with regards to last years championship as Alonso was. And Lewis played his hand before Alonso.

Thinking he was to green to know better? He was too green to know that what he played a hand in was only going to hurt his WDC chances. And Kimi going to the strippers and drinking? LOL so what. Again you not being realistic if you think Lewis doesnt party hard, he also has a shallow penchant to accumulate trophy roots and BJs. Again, whatever, he is a young man. But he is no low key innocent, right now i am thinking Kubica is old school cool. He is there for the racing.

Hamilton should stop all the Senna BS and just admit that he really wants to be James Hunt :P

Again, i dont hate Hamilton because of the RD/McLaren thing. I think he will only be at his best in years to come, when perhaps he isnt in the best car (If he sticks with McLaren like he claims). He will only be at his best when he has been galvanised by some more tough racing and wins and also the beats.

I think i have made it quite clear why i dont like Hamilton. Actually, its not dislike, he just annoys me. It made me laugh when at the start of the year all the talk about Hekki being a great team mate, McLaren being a team strong together etc etc. The immediate expectation was that he woudl support McLaren and Lewis's quest for a WDC.

I will haev bet money that if 4 GPs in Hekki was taking points and GP wins off Lewis then the tone would be different again. In fact i will have LOVED to see at Monaco if Heikki didnt have the problem on the grid what woudl have happened. He could have possibly been ahead of Lewis on the road at the end of the race, armco strike and all. I wonder if Lewis would have cried foul that he wasnt allowed to win the race because of team orders again this year?

m3gtr Grand Master

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I think you are being a littlke naive thinking that the case. You only have to look at the events last year and its clear. Speaking to some ppl that know better then me during and after the Aus GP ....well lets just say that Lewis was every bit as ambitious with regards to last years championship as Alonso was. And Lewis played his hand before Alonso.

Thinking he was to green to know better? He was too green to know that what he played a hand in was only going to hurt his WDC chances. And Kimi going to the strippers and drinking? LOL so what. Again you are dreaming if you think Lewis doesnt party hard, he also has a shallow penchant to accumulate ttophy roots and BJs. Again, whatever, he is a young man. But he is no low key innocent, right now i am thinking Kubica is old school cool. He is there for the racing.

Hamilton should stop all the Senna BS and just admit that he really wants to be James Hunt :P

Roy, i was talking about being involved in McLaren gate. LH had none of the emails that were being passed back and forth between FA and PD. I wasnt talking about their racing feuds. Yes, they both had hands to play but why FA thought LH was a threat should have been obvious by the way he was getting hosed by a rookie.

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The last time that happened was with JV and even he, with all the talk of a tough guy - outspoken, controversial, middle finger pointed at more than one person - even he ended up WDC,,,

m3gtr Grand Master

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So for the record woudl you like to tell me who was involved in the spy scandal last year? Which drivers, which engineers and which team staff/members?

Well, you could argue that the whole team was involved but we will never truly know will we>?

I honestly cant say with any confidence that LH was at the centre of it. Im sure of that much.

FA and PD were involved - they admitted as much because they were given amnesty. Remember Max "The whip" Mosley threatened them with sanctions should they choose not to speak up?

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Marco-R34GTT Grand Master

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right now i am thinking Kubica is old school cool. He is there for the racing.

And that is Robbie's appeal, how can't you like the guy, fast, fair, to the point, no bullshit, unpretentious...

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m3gtr Grand Master

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And that is Robbie's appeal, how can't you like the guy, fast, fair, to the point, no bullshit, unpretentious...

dont forget hes the most beautiful man in the paddock. :laugh:

Plus the vital fact that hes well and truly rattled NH's cage...

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