2008 F1 Season

[m3gtr]

look im not saying he needed to be DSQ, but at least make him come in and rip it off as part of his stop or something

imagine that thing collecting the guy behind him. nobody wants that

yep, and ferrari had that opportunity but played to the FIA to overlook it coz that wouldve lost Kimi time, lol.

Im so sick of ferrari manipulating the boards.

Cmon, you know thats the way the game is played these days...

McLaren are the scapegoat and ferrari are the victims.

I hope BMW spank em both to be frank.

[ctjet]

McLaren are the scapegoat and ferrari are the victims.

god... if that were the case, imagine hamilton driving for the fez

i'd have to assassinate the muppet

i dont think i could stomach a season of that sort of insane whinging, self richeous, manipulating behaviour

[m3gtr]

Im loving the way this championship is shaping up.

Anyone who says this championship is anywhere near decided needs to stfu. There are still 100 points up for grabs and there are 5 ...even 6 drivers in it.

2008 , keep it rolling.

[m3gtr]

god... if that were the case, imagine hamilton driving for the fez

i'd have to assassinate the muppet

i dont think i could stomach a season of that sort of insane whinging, self richeous, manipulating behaviour

Theyd go hand in hand wouldnt they? Such is the acknowledged gheyness.

[dezz]

I dont feckin believe it.

That was a bloody marginal call at best.

marginal? kidding yourself once again.

He obviously couldn't make the chicane as he was going way too fast after making the pass, so why shouldn't he be penalized? with the run offs available to drivers these days, anyone can pass if they choose to straight line the chicanes taking advantage of the nice smooth surface on offer off track.

if you got an HD tv you should get the channel for free

I've got 2 HD LCD's and neither of them will tune in to it for some reason.

Kimi, 60 laps with a bloody broken part flapping in the breeze and guess what..?

60 laps? lol.

and for god's sake stop stating the bleedingly obvious as if its something no one else would pick up on.

[Kaido_RR]

Kravitz interviewing that dumb shit of a wog as soon as kimi's problems became apparent was rediculous. Who gets a media liason who can barely speak english

umm wtf? i dont think that comment about him being a wog is necessary, and find it offense

[m3gtr]

marginal? kidding yourself once again.

He obviously couldn't make the chicane as he was going way too fast after making the pass, so why shouldn't he be penalized? with the run offs available to drivers these days, anyone can pass if they choose to straight line the chicanes taking advantage of the nice smooth surface on offer off track.

I've got 2 HD LCD's and neither of them will tune in to it for some reason.

60 laps? lol.

and for god's sake stop stating the bleedingly obvious as if its something no one else would pick up on.

Dezz, are you argumentative for arguments sake or do you just not like me?

I dont care either way really, but im saying hamilton was past and lost traction, sliding sideways before the chicane. So do you think he should be penalized for losing control? If yes, then Raikkonen should have been penalised for losing control in Monaco.

If no, then you would be in agreement with Ron Dennis who i would say knows a hell of a lot more about racing than you.

If its the bleeding obvious for me to point out that raikkonnen rightly should have been pulled in AGAIN and head the part removed, then i see no reason not to discuss it.

The simple fact is that you have some fundamental problem with ALL of my views on the sport and id like you to stop being so antagonistic.

Edited June 23, 2008 by m3gtr

[m3gtr]

Hamilton was damn right when he said this and many others agree with him...

*Eventually persuaded to speak about the incident with Vettel, which effectively cost him any chance of finishing in the points, Hamilton commented: "I don't particularly feel I did anything. I went into the corner. I believe I was ahead on the outside and I couldn't turn in on the guy otherwise we would have crashed so I took the outside line, lost the back on the marbles and went over the kerb. I continued because I don't believe I overtook him by going over the kerb, I actually took him before that."*

I dont get it. Vettel was cutting the kerbs lap after lap in Canada to keep Heikki behind him and was not penalized ONCE. How is that "NOT gaining a performance advantage" which is exactly what Lewis was hammered with. It f**ked his race properly. The pathetic stewards of the FIA should not have been investigating the incident in the first place. Once that was in motion, there was no turning back so the only option was for them to give him the "lightest" punishment available - the drive through - because by starting the process they HAD to...

Utter bullshit if you ask me.

McLaren - what can you say? 10 spots for Lewis, 5 for Heikki, drive-through for Lewis etc etc...

Wheres it going to end? No other team has been targeted like this all season but there have been countless times when others should have been penalized and WERENT.

Theres no equality with the FIA - and ill tell you whats bleeding obvious, and thats that the FIA is obviously taking kickbacks to cripple McLaren any way they can.

Edited June 23, 2008 by m3gtr

[wolverine]

“My drive-through penalty was an extremely close call: I felt I’d got past Vettel fairly and was ahead going into the corner. But I was on the outside and couldn’t turn-in in case we both crashed, then I lost the back-end and drove over the kerb.

i suppose we need to determine if his passing move was completed or not.

[salad]

I don't really agree with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvelG8gsMg

To me that video says he went into the corner too fast, and the car slid as he was about to go off the corner anyway.

If his pass was completed, there was no need to take the outside line (he didn't exactly leave much room for Vettel anyway), so why did he do it?

If his pass wasn't completed, then he gained something from cutting the chicane.

Edited June 23, 2008 by salad

[m3gtr]

I don't really agree with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvelG8gsMg

To me that video says he went into the corner too fast, and the car slid as he was about to go off the corner anyway.

If his pass was completed, there was no need to take the outside line (he didn't exactly leave much room for Vettel anyway), so why did he do it?

If his pass wasn't completed, then he gained something from cutting the chicane.

He was carrying speed - probably too much but the point here is whether or not he gained a performance advantage from it - seeing as that was the reason the FIA decided to penalize him and the case against it is 3 fold.

Firstly, the same guy who was passed, Vettel, was never penalised for his frequent indiscretions over the same driving in Canada. Secondly, even the FIA admit the indiscretion was marginal at best yet they also conceded that by starting the investigation, left them no choice but to give him a penalty, the most lenient one.

Thirdly, cmon, it was a STR. Its not like it wouldnt have happened again a couple of corners later.

There needs to be consistency in these decisions but at the moment there appears to be blatant bias.

[ferni]

I'm a hamilton fan, but even I think he should of given that spot back. Bottom line is he went off the track while trying to brake after overtaking.

[m3gtr]

You see, heres the rub. We lament the fact that there isnt any overtaking in F1 and heres hamilton with a pair of balls going for it and almost making it stick.

He gets penalized for something we'd like to see, ffs.

I think Hammo, as ragged as he was was awesome aggro. The move on Alonso was teh sickness...

[Kaido_RR]

You see, heres the rub. We lament the fact that there isnt any overtaking in F1 and heres hamilton with a pair of balls going for it and almost making it stick.

He gets penalized for something we'd like to see, ffs.

I think Hammo, as ragged as he was was awesome aggro. The move on Alonso was teh sickness...

hmm

why do you always make it out to be the world v's hamilton ? or FIA v's hamilton.

at the end of the day for all the rumors that have come out that ferrari has the FIA in its pocket are just rumours. there is no hard fact to prove otherwise.

The call was made on Hamilton and he should take it on the chin and move on, he wasn;t anywhere quick the whole race so really he would have been lucky to grab afew points

[lingeringsoul]

I'll have say that FIA was just inconsistant during that GP

I think Lewis did check with the team to see if that was a pass, which is why he continued on.

The manuver itself was a little diffult to comment on, it looked like he made the pass but then it didn't 'stick mid corner. Really hard to say. But then the FIA has more info on the incident than the TV station.

And as much as I'm a Ferrari fan, I don't konw why they didn't pull kimmi in for that exhaust, down right dangerous.

So yeah, inconsistant.

[ctjet]

umm wtf? i dont think that comment about him being a wog is necessary, and find it offense

jesus FCUKING christ, it was a joke

no sense of humour what so fkn ever with some people, if i can take being called one on a daily basis, then so can he

You see, heres the rub. We lament the fact that there isnt any overtaking in F1 and heres hamilton with a pair of balls going for it and almost making it stick.

He gets penalized for something we'd like to see, ffs.

I think Hammo, as ragged as he was was awesome aggro. The move on Alonso was teh sickness...

as you probably have read adam

the penalty was not for gaining a position, it was for keeping what seemed to be an unfair advantage... and hamilton got what he deserved. Alothough, Vettel should have have been punished for what he was doing in Canada, it does seem nonesensical to apply it here.

this is why the races are a joke to watch lately

[m3gtr]

hmm

why do you always make it out to be the world v's hamilton ? or FIA v's hamilton.

at the end of the day for all the rumors that have come out that ferrari has the FIA in its pocket are just rumours. there is no hard fact to prove otherwise.

The call was made on Hamilton and he should take it on the chin and move on, he wasn;t anywhere quick the whole race so really he would have been lucky to grab afew points

Its not so much the FIA against hamilton but what the hell is the deal with the FIA and McLaren??

100 million dollar fine...all these penalties...

How can we sit here and say, "Nah, thats all just a coincidence."

I still to this day cannot understand how Ferrari got away without even a slap on the wrist when they were involved in the spying saga. If it takes two to tango, the FIA shouldve hardened the feck up and slammed them both.

[lingeringsoul]

Its not so much the FIA against hamilton but what the hell is the deal with the FIA and McLaren??

i'm actually a little anoyed at that as well, they are handing out penalties to Mccas left and right.

[m3gtr]

jesus FCUKING christ, it was a joke

no sense of humour what so fkn ever with some people, if i can take being called one on a daily basis, then so can he

as you probably have read adam

the penalty was not for gaining a position, it was for keeping what seemed to be an unfair advantage... and hamilton got what he deserved. Alothough, Vettel should have have been punished for what he was doing in Canada, it does seem nonesensical to apply it here.

this is why the races are a joke to watch lately

yeah, Ive, i know many think it was an unfair advantage and lets suppose McLaren were on the blower to the FIA and hammo telling him to keep going - that they thought he wasnt going to get penalised, its Mac's cock up and thats pretty daft - the red light in Canada and now this...

I suppose Mac are shooting themselves in the foot and it wouldnt be the first time...

Edited June 23, 2008 by m3gtr

[ctjet]

i'm actually a little anoyed at that as well, they are handing out penalties to Mccas left and right.

how else is ferrari going to win man?

srsly... have some compassion

Edited June 23, 2008 by ctjet