N I B Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 All comes down to budget or lack of it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-430193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMACUL8 Posted July 15, 2003 Author Share Posted July 15, 2003 Yes Steve agreed.... But surely Steve you as a man in the industry must see people come in and tell you what they want and how they what to do it and wonder what the fark they are doing..... I made the mistake of buying a safc + ecb. They did increase the cars power - but a more sensiable and expandable soluton would have been to keep saving foe another $500 and bought an full wolf ecu of you for 2000 fitted and tuned. Car would go better, have room to expand mods and giving me more options (like runninf rotation idle, etc) Daniel Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-430206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N I B Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 True ,Buying S-afc+ebc+itc is a bad way to go, Top shelf EBCs cost asmuch and more than a Wolf Plugin $1395 retail. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-431001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO_RSPECT Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 hey cam dunno if steve told you but the wolf plugin control boost as well. so that would mean that you could ditch the evc, afc, itc and then plugin that wolf. Would'nt it be worthwhile investing in a not so large intercooler. evo cooler or maybe a quality item like the ARC cooler on japanese motorsport (if it werent for the price) definately the pineapples, which DR Drift can get for us fairly cheaply in a group buy and I might also be able to pull strings but also an uprated sway bar and a rear tower braceand the hicas lock kit, AND BUSHES alot to invest in suspension (without going drift suspension) but it should make a very noticeable difference to the cornering and handling and the ability to feel where and how the car is going to react and the severity of its reaction. i mean even if you have average power like 240+ horses at least you know you can drive your car at the limit of those horses most of the time, which will really be faster and you wont have to be so tentative. i am not sure on the intercooling though as I would like to walk REVs path first and then see from there. (Flywheel etc) but I am really a fan of the evo coolers and the stocko R32 gtr onwards coolers. $650 through hikari push and i am sure you can get it to your door for $650 we have to set aside a cat bashing day (take it however you want) for a few lines and do it properly or a cat modyfying day with a pipe through it after the excavating. okay I am tired of typing now its way past my bedtime. laters Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-431532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanda Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 yo, riaz, 1. the best way to go fast in a skyline is not to sell it, braa! 2. @ so tentative - yeah, that's cam's problem. :sarcasm: 3. talk to me re: these pineapples. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-431540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
APA Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 but can sumone tell me, which aftermarket ecu's support auto cars? steve can the wolf support auto transmission? autronic? powerfc is out the window already adrian Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-431583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caminperth Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Thanks for the input guys - and Dan, you're onto something with the turbo I think - it more comes to my budget - thats why I was trying to suggest low budget things... No_respect - great to see the S14 for sale and not the line.. bashing can be organised for next weekend maybe? Zanda - thanks for the tentative bit.. I supose it looks like I'm scared of my car when I'm driving hey? :cheap dig at No_respect: My plan is: 1. Get the existing shite tuned so at least it's running properly 2. Upgrade suspension as mentioned by No_respect 3. Then look at how it goes and work out priorities.. 4. If priorities (ie: buying house) allows - it'll be front mount then wolf then turbo... Dan - The only reason I have the piggy back stuff hanging off my car is that it came with it. Otherwise I don't think I would've spent the $$ on it - would've gone straight for a Wolf or Powerfc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-431774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO_RSPECT Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 ahh yes the cheap digs rule I will speak to the DOC and sort out a group buy, anyone wanting in expect to pay around $100 i think so PM me please if you want. and I will get final prices Paul if you read this, i forgot to give you money, i will do so shortly. sorry RiaZ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-431917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by caminperth 4. If priorities (ie: buying house) allows - it'll be front mount then wolf then turbo... May I suggest that you do the management first and then base the intercooler choice on what sort of turbo and power level you are after. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-432752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanda Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 anyone know of anyone on this board using supra fmics as a basic upgrade over the factory item? are these particuarly restrictive when compared to - say a gtr cooler, or just smaller? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-432817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caminperth Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Rev - you may. Thanks. Makes sense really... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-432873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO_RSPECT Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 i would go a vr4 front mount before a supra front mount have you seen the soarer intercooler very tasty item, about $300 though i dont think its worth it zanda can get ya a vr4 one for under $250 with some fine print Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-433234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob77 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/fact_shee...line_R33GTS.PDF That link will take you to what whiteline offer for upgrading the handling of the r33. The springs, shocks and swaybar seem the go... will cost you around $2000 upwards though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-433363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N I B Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Supra cores are a waste of time and money as they drop about 4 to5 PSI. EVO or GTR and modified GTiR cores are the only factory coolers that work. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-433600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB20LagWagon Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Steve how about the question, Can wolf support a auto, im interested in this too. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-440215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N I B Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Yes the Wolf Skyline plugins are Auto compatible. Grants(PER4MANZ)R33 has a 3D and Auto. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-440266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckish Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I have just been in Imacul8 WRX. All thats been done to it is a VF22 Turbo and Butler 3.5" exhaust. Prob cost about $5K tops including install. The thing should be good for high 12's low 13's as is. I can't think of $5K of mods on a Line that would get the same results. Rev , Steve etc your opinions ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-442741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS-t VSPEC Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 A stock GTR with upped boost can run 12's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-442846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckish Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Yeah but most cars (R33 GTSt) I've seen are only in the 13's ? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-443465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob77 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 if you put a bigger turbo onto a gtst and a full turbo back exhaust, fitted up a bleed valve, I'm sure you'd run deep into the 13's. You could do a few runs at the plex without needing a bigger intercooler straight away I reckon. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/20011-the-skyline-and-hp-debate-and-comment-please-no-mud-slinging/page/5/#findComment-443486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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