Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Sheng]

havent had any personal experience with it..have you used any of those supplements before???

ive heard tribulus is suppose to be good but not really an idea about it.

figured purple wratth and protein ws doiing me good...plus decent diet mainly pasta and rice dishes & chicken

Yeah i've used them before except triandrobol and trib, depends what you wanna do, i gained about 8 kgs in 4 weeks, i was on a 5 day program and low-carb diet. yes! lots of Chicken

shenq how old are you? trib doesnt work... unless your test levels are down, roughly 27yrs+

I'm 23, yeah i heard ups n downs about tribulus, most of them are downs lol, so i ditched that and got micronised creatine instead, it should go well with beta-alanine. triandrobol has about 60% trib terrestris in each tablet, and also high in steroidal saponins.

[topher_]

Yeah i've used them before except triandrobol and trib, depends what you wanna do, i gained about 8 kgs in 4 weeks, i was on a 5 day program and low-carb diet. yes! lots of Chicken

I'm 23, yeah i heard ups n downs about tribulus, most of them are downs lol, so i ditched that and got micronised creatine instead, it should go well with beta-alanine. triandrobol has about 60% trib terrestris in each tablet, and also high in steroidal saponins.

Why would you be on a low carb diet if you are trying to gain weight? trib is a waste of money.

[Sheng]

you still gain weight when you on low carb mate, just need to maintain the right amount of serving carb per each portion, i.e i eat equivalent of 3 cups of rice or pasta per day.

[LTHLRB]

if the other supp your getting is from a supp store here in aus, most likely it probably wont work or will have very little gains. best thing to do is have a spot on diet, 60/40 protein/carb. for building mass, a good protein and a good creatine.. Most supps here in aus are crap compared to the stuff in the US. So save your cash unless you know someone who can get supps from the US

[dan_the_man]

pretty good workout here

watch it k ?

[Sheng]

nice shoes

[topher_]

you still gain weight when you on low carb mate, just need to maintain the right amount of serving carb per each portion, i.e i eat equivalent of 3 cups of rice or pasta per day.

You either bulk or you cut. You won't grow if you aren't having enough calories

[Sheng]

You either bulk or you cut. You won't grow if you aren't having enough calories

From personal experiences, i gained at least 6-8 during my 8 weeks of training when i was on that diet. and not everyone is either bulk or cut lol

[topher_]

From personal experiences, i gained at least 6-8 during my 8 weeks of training when i was on that diet. and not everyone is either bulk or cut lol

If you were replacing the missing carbs with fats then yeah i can see that you would grow a little. If you were on a 'low carb' diet (how low?) and weren't eating fats and STILL grew then you don't know how to diet properly lol

[Turk1]

My diet consists of a big breakfast, with chicken and rice throughout the day with red meat at night

[Sheng]

If you were replacing the missing carbs with fats then yeah i can see that you would grow a little. If you were on a 'low carb' diet (how low?) and weren't eating fats and STILL grew then you don't know how to diet properly lol

Well yeah fatty acid is essential part of the diet, like olive oil, avocado etc, each person has different physiques n figures, not everyone will work on a diet which would suit them the best, mate you if are struggling putting on weight maybe you should try a different diet n program

[topher_]

When did i say i am struggling in putting on weight? I've gained 25kg in the year i have been training.

[dan_the_man]

When did i say i am struggling in putting on weight? I've gained 25kg in the year i have been training.

How much of that is fat?

25kg of muscle is a lot bro. wow

[topher_]

Definately a bit of fat but not too much. You are always going to put on some fat when you are eating so many calories a day

[RBwhatever]

people should post more pics....progress shots i mean

Edited September 2, 2009 by RBwhatever

[Turk1]

people should post more pics....progress shots i mean

Indeed, I am interested to see how everyone is going

[NZM.031]

i dont have a progress shot... but i remember when the 2 points of bone on the top of my shoulders were sticking out.. and i hated it.. i noticed this morning that they are now surrounded by my delts and my traps.. im not huge... but thats progress right therr... same as my collarbones... they are now surrounded by my upper pecs.

[dan_the_man]

Definately a bit of fat but not too much. You are always going to put on some fat when you are eating so many calories a day

how much of that 25kg would be muscle?

can you post up some before and after pics? I'm genuinely interested to see how you gained 25kgs in 12 months.

[some_cs_student]

how much of that 25kg would be muscle?

can you post up some before and after pics? I'm genuinely interested to see how you gained 25kgs in 12 months.

So your saying you built 2kg muscle / month for 12months?

If your happy with your results, congrats, I think I've built 15kg in the past 2-3 years if I'm lucky

But unless your on something illegal or your genetically special, that's not physically possible from what I can see, have a read of the truth about bulking

Although I'd still say your strength level is much much more important than kg/muscle. Who cares if you've got 30kg muscle, I'd rather be deadlifting 200kg (that's my goal for the year, not looking too good at the moment).

[topher_]

This was me before i even stepped foot into a gym, been that skinny size my whole life.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2gshbnr.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2m50xhf.jpg

This was 4-6 months into training roughly

http://i44.tinypic.com/95ugrt.jpg

These pics were taken 1 and a half months ago

http://i26.tinypic.com/zn8p3m.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/14xnz15.jpg