Gym And Supplement Discussion

[dan_the_man]

looks like about 8-10 kgs but not 25kg.

what was your diet and training like?

did you use any aas?

[dan_the_man]

So your saying you built 2kg muscle / month for 12months?

If your happy with your results, congrats, I think I've built 15kg in the past 2-3 years if I'm lucky

But unless your on something illegal or your genetically special, that's not physically possible from what I can see, have a read of the truth about bulking

Although I'd still say your strength level is much much more important than kg/muscle. Who cares if you've got 30kg muscle, I'd rather be deadlifting 200kg (that's my goal for the year, not looking too good at the moment).

I'm not sure why I am being asked these questions.

[topher_]

looks like about 8-10 kgs but not 25kg.

what was your diet and training like?

did you use any aas?

Was 73kg am now 98kg. Training was pretty good i have always trained with a mate and both of them have been training for a minimum 4 years. Diet was pretty good at the start but i started slacking off towards the end and eating alot more shit such as chocolate and stuff so i put on a bit of fat there.

1 cycle

[Flynnn]

looks like about 8-10 kgs but not 25kg.

what was your diet and training like?

did you use any aas?

this.

[dan_the_man]

1 cycle... bingo

[LTHLRB]

1 cycle tends to help... Your arms look kinda like mine and your delts are pretty similar aswell.. pm me if you care to share what cycle that is..

im now on 89kg just about 2 weeks into my bulking from 86kg.. Got another month to go, going to focus more on clean calorie increase to try get upto 95kg.. if i can. So far every muscle that had some good size on my body is denser and bigger, power is increased a fair bit and strength has inscreased aswell.

[topher_]

1 cycle tends to help... Your arms look kinda like mine and your delts are pretty similar aswell.. pm me if you care to share what cycle that is..

im now on 89kg just about 2 weeks into my bulking from 86kg.. Got another month to go, going to focus more on clean calorie increase to try get upto 95kg.. if i can. So far every muscle that had some good size on my body is denser and bigger, power is increased a fair bit and strength has inscreased aswell.

I'm planning to do another one in october and then another 2 next year and cut up for summer next year

I'll pm you details of what i took etc after i get back from the gym

[topher_]

Hmmm couldn't edit above post...

1 cycle... bingo

Steroids don't make you big though, they just give you a boost. You can inject someone with no idea about diet and training with 10 litres of roids a day and they won't grow.

[GTR-32U]

Hmmm couldn't edit above post...

Steroids don't make you big though, they just give you a boost. You can inject someone with no idea about diet and training with 10 litres of roids a day and they won't grow.

Bzzz....! Not sure if I agree wit that one. I have seen plenty of guys hit the gear and to watch them train is laughable indeed.. I kind of liken them to having NOS in your car, Its great and fast while its there, But as soon as that bottle is empty-your right back to square one again. I have seen guys literally spend well over a grand for a cycle..in that time they did put on some decent size, As soon as they ran out...Pffft back to being a creampuff again... Thats why I much prefer the natural way. Its long term, And even when I gave up training for a few years- I still carried an amount of size

[Turk1]

Well I can't find any pics from when I first started training...but I got a few shots from a few months back.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2qtfigo.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/fny621.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/2rzxwlz.jpg

EDIT - Ohh and excuse the second pic didnt want to be one to ignore the largest muscle in the body

Edited September 3, 2009 by Turk1

[topher_]

Bzzz....! Not sure if I agree wit that one. I have seen plenty of guys hit the gear and to watch them train is laughable indeed.. I kind of liken them to having NOS in your car, Its great and fast while its there, But as soon as that bottle is empty-your right back to square one again. I have seen guys literally spend well over a grand for a cycle..in that time they did put on some decent size, As soon as they ran out...Pffft back to being a creampuff again... Thats why I much prefer the natural way. Its long term, And even when I gave up training for a few years- I still carried an amount of size

So what you are telling me is that someone who was as skinny as i was started taking roids, only ate 3 times a day and did not know how to lift at all would get big? Come on.......

But yes, lots of people waste their money on cycles and then end up shrinking back to what they were in the first place because they don't take any PCT, stop training hard and eating as much once they come off.

Nice arms mehmet, how long you been training for?

Edited September 3, 2009 by topher_

[dezz]

This was me before i even stepped foot into a gym, been that skinny size my whole life.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2gshbnr.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2m50xhf.jpg

This was 4-6 months into training roughly

http://i44.tinypic.com/95ugrt.jpg

These pics were taken 1 and a half months ago

http://i26.tinypic.com/zn8p3m.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/14xnz15.jpg

Not calling you a liar, but that last pic looks nothing like a 98kg person, unless you're 7ft tall?

[topher_]

Not calling you a liar, but that last pic looks nothing like a 98kg person, unless you're 7ft tall?

I'm only 5' 10" and why would i lie about how much i weigh? lol You can't see any chest or legs or anything in that pic so maybe that's why, who knows? I'm not gonna try and argue the fact of how much i weigh because it's just stupid. If it really bothers you that much i'll jump on the scales naked and take a picture of the scales for you

Edited September 3, 2009 by topher_

[dezz]

I don't see why you're getting so defensive...but ok...

All I said is it doesn't 'LOOK' like a 98 kg person

[topher_]

Because it sounded like a bit of a smart arse comment and i have an issue with smart arse people

Anyway everybody is different and i have a mate that is 88kg and a bit shorter than me and he is bigger (except for back and legs)

[GTR-32U]

I don't see why you're getting so defensive...but ok...

All I said is it doesn't 'LOOK' like a 98 kg person

To be honest I am not a big fan of Physique photos, They rarely do reality justice. Eg a 5 ft tall 60 kg guy in training usually looks massive in a picture, However a 100 kg 6'4 guy in training generally looks smallish. However , stand the two guys side by side and then you can see the real picture. 6'4 guy towers over the little guy and is virtually twice his size.

[dezz]

To be honest I am not a big fan of Physique photos, They rarely do reality justice. Eg a 5 ft tall 60 kg guy in training usually looks massive in a picture, However a 100 kg 6'4 guy in training generally looks smallish. However , stand the two guys side by side and then you can see the real picture. 6'4 guy towers over the little guy and is virtually twice his size.

I'm of the same opinion...I've only really ever taken photos of myself once, and I looked like shit (fair enough I'm carrying too much fat in the mid section) but the amount of people I get telling me I'm on the juice etc, I must look slightly better in the flesh than in the photos..

[topher_]

I'm of the same opinion...I've only really ever taken photos of myself once, and I looked like shit (fair enough I'm carrying too much fat in the mid section) but the amount of people I get telling me I'm on the juice etc, I must look slightly better in the flesh than in the photos..

Where your belly button is and all the way around turning into love handles? I get that pretty much where i store most of my fat with a little bit of fat on my chest but not alot.

[dezz]

Where your belly button is and all the way around turning into love handles? I get that pretty much where i store most of my fat with a little bit of fat on my chest but not alot.

yeah sounds pretty much identical to me...Shoulders/arms/traps etc are fine, so if I'm in a singlet people think I'm in decent shape...but shirt off is a different story.

Pre season will start up again soon so that should help a bit, but I don't think I'll ever be lean lean

[Flynnn]

Well I can't find any pics from when I first started training...but I got a few shots from a few months back.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2qtfigo.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/fny621.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/2rzxwlz.jpg

EDIT - Ohh and excuse the second pic didnt want to be one to ignore the largest muscle in the body

len Memo

what's your stats ?