Gym And Supplement Discussion

[GHOSTrun]

Trozzle I have never said any unkind words about you, and I have never claimed my body looks like anything special or compared myself to anyone else. Again a lot of people seem to be reading what they want to read and not what is actually being written.

[Trozzle]

Trozzle I have never said any unkind words about you, and I have never claimed my body looks like anything special or compared myself to anyone else. Again a lot of people seem to be reading what they want to read and not what is actually being written.

No I said you've said KIND words in my thread lol

Though I'm merely "replying" to your cocky attitude in this one. Take it easy JESUS

[GTR_JOEY]

If ur referring to my need to put weight on comment I'm only stirring dude... I know ur giving it a hard go and I respect that, stop worrying so much ull drive urself mad

[GHOSTrun]

No I said you've said KIND words in my thread lol

Though I'm merely "replying" to your cocky attitude in this one. Take it easy JESUS

Cool, just clarifying.

[GHOSTrun]

If ur referring to my need to put weight on comment I'm only stirring dude... I know ur giving it a hard go and I respect that, stop worrying so much ull drive urself mad

Narh I wasn't, but there isn't a day where someone doesn't say that, lol, fair used to it by now

Edited November 28, 2011 by GHOSTrun

[some_cs_student]

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He's had a 36% body weight gain...and this is a better increase than anyone on this forum? Me going from 63kg at the same height to 89kg with the same BF, then cutting down to 83kg just pales in comparison to this, apparently. Then his one rep max is 20kg more than he weighs? Okay, I pushed out TEN (count 'em) reps of 100kg at around 82kg body weight. I don't do diets, I don't supplement...I'm not even trying to be the strongest cunt there is. And while we're here...how many 20 year old behemoths weighing 110kg are representative of what the average person can achieve at the gym? Is this example a joke? By this logic, GHOSTrun, if you're not benching 170kg within 18 months then you're doing it all wrong and have learnt nothing.

And really, good for you Jack...

I can see this thread has managed to cause quite a lot of discussion, most of it looks pointless.

I've reported some posts to moderators as I'd like to end any discussion around Jack or anyone else from PTC. PTC is an old school strength and conditioning gym, those that are interested in that would be on the ProRaw forums, not SAU.

Ghosty can represent himself if he wishes, although I'd prefer if this thread went back to something more interesting.

Ghosty, you only get 30minutes to edit any posts you make on SAU.

[some_cs_student]

Back on topic...supplement wise I use glucosamine & chondroitin, to assist the joints.

Fish oil (omega 3), a multi-vitamin and curcumin (herbal anti-inflammatory).

[Birds]

FWIW and FYI Gareth, I have nothing against PTC or this Jack fellow, don't even know him or care who he is, but if someone's going to use these things as basis for a comparison then naturally my reply is going to include talk about it. It was a pointless exercise bringing it to the table in the first place.

[GHOSTrun]

Sorry man, but for shits and giggles I had to take a picture of myself in the same pose you took this one......my f**king god does it make me look like shit. I'll give you one thing, you've got much bigger delts than me (most people do sigh...) though otherwise I think I just found another reason to laugh really hard at the last page or so of this thread. Even though I know you've said some kind words in my thread, I gotta say....delts are about ALL you have on me

Also I have the guts to NOT crop off my ugly mug

It's actually just a front relaxed shot, no flexing no pose, generally does make you look shit unless you're actually carrying some mass.

Anyway here's a more recent pic...

Edited November 28, 2011 by GHOSTrun

[Dani Boi]

Yeah so anyway....

Supps:

ON 100% gold standard whey

ON fish oil

NOW multi

Max's Creatine

1.M.R. - Only take this when I need it, probably only use it about 2-3 times a month.

Gone from 5'8" 60kg to 5'8" 70kg in 9 months with probably a 3-5% bf increase ( I reckon I'm at about 12%-13% bf atm). Goal is it to hit 73kg by end of March next year and then not to sure if I'll cut a little or continue to bulk from then on as I want to hit about 75k but don't want to go above 14% bf.

Edited November 29, 2011 by Dani Boi

[Birds]

so what supplements do you lot take?

Im on:

multi vitamen

fish oil

testosterone

Ultimate Nutrition BCAA mix watermelon flavor

Ultimate Nutrition 100% whey protein vanilla creme

I tried UN 100% whey, it's a mass gainer so very very good for putting on the pounds...just don't make the mistake of thinking it's all muscle though lol. I went from 83kg to about 89kg on that stuff in just a few months...other people have reported similar results with it. I wasn't doing cardio at the time though, so it was probably a carb overload. If I get back on it again I'll be running non-stop to keep off the fat.

[TTT]

2 scoops of protein and 1 scoop of dextrose with 300ml water after lifting is all I take in the way of supplements.

[R-SPEC]

some heavy supp spenders here...

so what supplements do you lot take?

universal ultra whey pro

jack3d pre-workout - though easing up on this lately it doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same effect it did the first/second months of usage. and i hate the taste.

[GHOSTrun]

Urban Muscle Platnium Blend, but currently trying a generic brand off the net that's literally almost a third of the price and only has a few grams less protein per 100g than the Platnium Blend one.

Fish oil, whatever's cheapest, normally pay around $13/400 capsules from discount chemist

Balance Sports Multi Vitamin

Glucosamine powder

[vspecIInur]

The thing with pre-workout is that your body adapts to it and should cycle wit to ensure your still maximising the benefits. Try Mesomoroph, anyone I speak to and mention it says it's far more supertior than Jack3d.

There's a new type of protein available by Optimum Nurtition. It's called Platinum Hydrobuilder. Should be one of the best types on the market but expensive though.

[Birds]

Can't wait for winter so all these summer cunts f**k off. Why do people think they can join a gym in late spring and have dramatic body changes in time for summer?

[Trozzle]

Can't wait for winter so all these summer dream boats f**k off. Why do people think they can join a gym in late spring and have dramatic body changes in time for summer?

They're either ignorant middle-ages chubbies who succumb easily to marketing, or try hard wankers who only go there for the "pump" prior to showing themselves in public.

[GHOSTrun]

My votes on successful gym marketting

[GTR_JOEY]

I'll reckon it's the bunch of tards that think they can get a muscle bound beach body in 4 weeks

Better off cutting down and be giving the illusion of size

[GTR_JOEY]

Righto been doin a fair bit of thinking and reading and I've decided to change up the routine a bit

OLD ROUTINE

Monday

Chest/tris

Tuesday

Legs/abs

Wednesday

Upper back/bis

Thursday

Shoulders/abs

Friday

Deadlift session

NEW ROUTINE

Monday

Chest/tris

Tuesday

Legs/shoulders

Wednesday

Upper back/bis

Then repeat though on the second cycle I'll do a deadlift session..

So I'll be doing each muscle group twice a week though the amont of time spent on each muscle group in each session has been reduced

Essentially Shorter sessions more often stop needless over training and allow 3-4 days rest before getting back into it as appose to 5-6

I will still be doing the major exercises in both sessions though I'll will vary it so it's different ie

Chest

Day 1 barbell presses

Day 2 dumbbell presses

Back

Day 1 bentover barbell rows

Day 2 bent over t bar rows

I've also come to the conclusion that while Im tryin to bulk up my abs are goin to show up much anyway do I've cut the ab shit away

What do u guys reckon?

Appreciate input

Cheers

Edited November 29, 2011 by GTR_JOEY