Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Birds]

When measuring arms, do we measure tensed or untensed?

[GHOSTrun]

When measuring arms, do we measure tensed or untensed?

straight arm unflexed (don't know if that's right or not, just how I did it for my suit measurements lol)

Edited February 6, 2012 by GHOSTrun

[GHOSTrun]

Diet looks good IMO. PM sent re: suggestion.

will have a read, thanks.

[No Crust Racing]

Doing my head in having a look at these online supplement places 0_0

From what I can tell all I need is a decent WPI and maybe some Creatine Monohydrate (Assuming one of those has enough BCAAs in it) Is there a product that combines both or am I going to have to buy two products?

As mentioned this is more for a post workout recovery supp, though I could potentially use it in lower doses in the off days if necessary.

[Tangles]

Protein, Creatine + BCAA's - the branched chain amino acids really aid recovery, or so Ive found.

Id suggest buying all 3 as seperate products, and mix into a pre&post workout shake. www.mrsupplement.com has some specials going at the moment.

Today was 1st session of Split routine. Completed the exercises right on the hour mark, so that bodes well for when Uni starts to aid in getting in/out, refresh & train ride into city for morning classes... pity I cant sort out a timetable as yet, grrrr.

[No Crust Racing]

Having a look now, any particular brands to keep an eye on or stay clear of?

Thoughts on this? I had a look through the Blended proteins and most of them have WPI and aminos but this one had creatine monohydrate also

http://www.mrsupplement.com.au/dymatize-nutrition-elite-fusion-7

Though I can't work out the serving side, says 76g per serve but says 59 serves per pack and pack is 2.3kg those numbers don't add up?

Or is it the scoop is approx 38g so there are 59 scoops in the tub but 2 scoops are required for one "serve"

The cost per serve seems a bit high compared to many others, but it also has the creatine monohydrate in it as mentioned.

Edited February 6, 2012 by ActionDan

[GHOSTrun]

Found the same thing about numbers adding up when you look at the macro table on certain products and add up the "quanities per 100g", and low and behold they don't all add up to 100g lol

[No Crust Racing]

Website shows one rounded scoop = one serve, so in the 2.3kg tub there's almost 60 serves.

http://www.dymatize.com/products/protein/505/elite-fusion-7/

Oddly though the website breakdown doesn't show the creatine component like Mr Supplement website does.

So how the hell am I supposed to know what's in it

Edited February 6, 2012 by ActionDan

[KezR33]

Save your $$$, buy more steak.

[No Crust Racing]

lol, I'm not about to eat a steak post workout Kez. It's as much about recovery as it is about gaining a couple extra kgs.

[KezR33]

I do all the time! IMO I think a lot of people need to work on their diet (and just eat more in general) before turning to supplements. I use a whey protein occasionally because its convenient but I know I still have a lot of size and strength to be gained without the assistance of supplements. I'll save creatine and the like till after I plateau.

Ghosty on here is a good example, the guy is strong fk for his weight, and is only just now turning to supplements to gain that extra edge.

[No Crust Racing]

You'll recall Kez that I was where you were a long time ago, started out at 65kg so I'm pretty comfortable with what I do and don't need supplements for.

If you have the time to eat a steak after a workout, that's awesome. I don't and one scoop of X and some milk is much faster for me, plus I can get a few extra goodies specifically for recovery rather than just the protein a steak would give me - and yes I realise you're using steak as an example only.

The $$ is worth the convenience and the extra assistance in terms of recovery for someone with my secondary muscle group injury history.

That said, I'm finding you guys surprisingly quiet on this topic - Or is this the one part of working out that everyone still keeps secret squirrel?

[KezR33]

But aren't you training at home? You could just stick something in the oven before you start training/during training, then walk back into the house after you're done and feast.

[No Crust Racing]

lol yep sure am but I think you'll just have to accept that we have differing opinions on this.

You're happy for your supp to be a steak, I'd rather something specifically targeted to assist in the areas I'm focused on.

[TTT]

When measuring arms, do we measure tensed or untensed?

We don't!

[rev210]

Having a look now, any particular brands to keep an eye on or stay clear of?

Thoughts on this? I had a look through the Blended proteins and most of them have WPI and aminos but this one had creatine monohydrate also

http://www.mrsupplement.com.au/dymatize-nutrition-elite-fusion-7

Though I can't work out the serving side, says 76g per serve but says 59 serves per pack and pack is 2.3kg those numbers don't add up?

Or is it the scoop is approx 38g so there are 59 scoops in the tub but 2 scoops are required for one "serve"

The cost per serve seems a bit high compared to many others, but it also has the creatine monohydrate in it as mentioned.

Blended products usually don't name the grams or ratios of included ingredients, be good if they did. You can bet on the WPI and hydrolysed protein content being some 'dust' sprinkled into the container ha ha....

If you want to save some money and leave the ingredients pure with no fillers than this joint is good.

www.professionalwhey.com.au

At least you can control what you are mixing up. Bulk prices are good. Sources of the product named and you can buy ingredients pure. Delivery and service excellent.

WPC , micelar casein, Creatine and beta-alanine are the supps I would recommend for best value. But, they sell lots of other supps.

[rev210]

When measuring arms, do we measure tensed or untensed?

I reckon broken is the way to go for bragging rights.

Get the fracture right and the swelling will get you 21 inch guns in no time !

Refuse to get them in plaster so you can show them off at the beach. With a generous amount of fake tan and a pack of oxycodone you can wow them all.

Or become a huge fatty and end up so that no one can tell where your torso ends and the arms begin.

30 inch blubber guns FTW !

But the stats for chest and legs will be killer too as well !

[No Crust Racing]

Blended products usually don't name the grams or ratios of included ingredients, be good if they did. You can bet on the WPI and hydrolysed protein content being some 'dust' sprinkled into the container ha ha....

If you want to save some money and leave the ingredients pure with no fillers than this joint is good.

www.professionalwhey.com.au

At least you can control what you are mixing up. Bulk prices are good. Sources of the product named and you can buy ingredients pure. Delivery and service excellent.

WPC , micelar casein, Creatine and beta-alanine are the supps I would recommend for best value. But, they sell lots of other supps.

Having a look at that site, the WPI seems well priced.

As for the Dymatize I linked earlier, it lists the contents down the side of the page but only states "Protein" and does not specify any further than that.

That said, I have not been able to confirm the contents as neither Dymatize nor MrSupps will reply to an email about the discrepancies in the nutritional info.

[KezR33]

For protein I've always used Max's. It's well priced and tastes great imo.

[GTR_JOEY]

Lol well as long as it's cheap and tastes good.. Must be a good product