Gym And Supplement Discussion

[HEKT1K]

Biggest gym in Australia

It'd have to be to fit you in there hey?

[Trozzle]

Indoor soccer has to be one of the best ways to get your HIIT fix. My f**king God I'm wrecked. Feelsamazinglygoodman.jpg

[25GTT]

Ok so to get your thoughts:

550 sqm off free weights, cardio equipment, pin loaded machinery

5 x water bodies consisting of 8 lane 25 metre lap pool, 8 lane 50 metre lap pool, spa, large leisure pool, zero depth splash pad.

2200 sqm of basketball courts also used for boxing plus large scale fight night events.

3 large group fitness studios 1 x holding capacity of 200 patrons, 1 x 150 patrons 1 x 80 patrons.

1 x spin cycle studio with 23 bikes.

2 x on site cafe's.

Thats the first floor (there is a second floor). so what do you feel (as general public) is classified as a "gymnasium"

[Trozzle]

I'd classify that as epic.

[25GTT]

thats what i manage :- ) included is 200 casual staff, including 14 personal trainers conducting over 445 personal training sessions per month. I am quite proud of my baby.

[Trozzle]

Can has free entry when I come to Perth?

hahaha don't think I'll ever make it to Perth any time soon

[25GTT]

Yes you may :-)

This is why i am trying to get my head around what the general public considers as a gym, otherwise i could promote the same thing, however i really cannot classify it as a gym. Whilst industry leaders clarify certain areas as "gymnasium" does not mean this is consistent with public perception.

[Trozzle]

Comprehensive all in one ultimate fitness centre?

[TM7GTR]

holy shit that place is too huge... tbh I prefer small gyms. You get to know just about everyone that walks in after a while, more of a friendly atmosphere over the big gyms where every dude is checking other dudes out to see who has bigger arms

[25GTT]

Have one of them too. Actually we have three centres. The one i mentioned is the main one. the other two are smaller subsidiary/sattelite facilities. one has a smaller studio style gym, basketbal courts etc. our last one has no gym, but does have a court (again is this then a gym?) and various rooms for subsidised user groups. All three have childcare facilities.

A lot of the old school WA guys over here have seen me progress from the private centres etc have been working in the health and fitness industry for over 10 years and cant dream of leaving it, the opportunities and progression have been fantastic. one member who is an absolute champ now owns his own gym which is wonderful to see and many old staff now run their own boot camps and their own businesses.

Generally speaking a lot of fitness proffesionals wont give advice on techniques and diet etc without having a complete knowledge of the customer (P.E.Q) sometimes due to legal complications which can occur. *sad isnt it*

Am happy to assist where ever possible but do have some limitations. Most facilities these days do give a free induction with new and renewing members, albeit not all PT's are up to standard and are that approachable but normally a gym will have at least one good PT that you can ask for advice.

[dezz]

I'd call that a leisure centre, which is what the one near me is called. Has all of that minus the basketball courts as we have a dedicated b ball stadium locally.

Not trying to get into a a pissing contest as I'm just a member, not the owner manager, and to be honest I don't want anymore members there lol.

I got some photos (albeit very average) last night so I'll upload em when I'm home.

As for the comment on preferring smaller gyms coz u get to know everyone, each to their own but I prefer less distractions (knowing less people) at the gym

[TTT]

GYM is used to describe different things depending on your chosen sport.

Basket ball will call the basket ball court a gym if they are going for a training session, drills etc.

A gymnast will call their facilities where they do gymnastics a gym or gymnasium.

an olympic lifter will call the platform his gym

a weights room is refered to as a gym.

people running or cycling on the spot while reading a magazine call that place a gym.

step class people call what they do "going ot the gym"

If you have ALL those things in the one complex, it can be referred to as many things.

GYM

Fitness Centre

Leasure Centre

Health Spa

Super Happy Good Luck club of Fun times

Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega-Gym-Fit-Centre

Personally, I would NEVER step foot in a place like that.

It's not for me.

Sure it has what I would use, but it also has so many things I would hate.

Mirrors as far as the eye can see.

Super bright lights

Shiny chromed equipment

90% patrons who are morons that would annoy me to see because they are either bludging or complaining or posing or eyeballing people or trying to give advice

Shit music pumped through the entire area

shaved down, fake tanned PTs making people do 10kg DB press on a fit ball

signs saying "do not drop weights" or "no chalk" or "no sweat"

industrial strength air con pumped up so people don't sweat

Having said that, those things I listed as hate, people would have as their LOVE TO HAVE list.

To each their own.

[-FIGJAM-]

back on the supplements.

Been on the SizeOn Creatine for a couple weeks now (i think)...

Havent increased in size, at least in no way shape or form that I'd accredit it to the Creatine. Still floating around the 70kg - 71kg mark

I have gained strength but I dont believe the Creatine is behind this, I have been pushing myself harder as of late as well as consuming heaps more protein and food in general.

I have been drinking more water, I believe that the Creatine is the reason behind this, not sure if I would consider this a good or a bad thing.

Taste is alright, im not over the moon with the taste but I wouldnt knock it back either. It also mixes really well.

Now SizeOn claims that it will increase pumps, strength blah blah if you take it during your workout, in short I think this is marketing BS because I dont feel pumped up or anything after drinking it through the day, also after drinking I am real hungry, I did some looking around and thats not too uncommon for this product, what made sense to me was I am probably having an insulin spike causing the hunger. This is due to SizeOn having near 20+ grams of sugar in it.

To sum up, I wont be buying it again. The stuff from German American Technologies taste much better and is a similar product with smaller dosses.

[TTT]

Man if you insist on taking creatine, then buy 100% pure creatine monohydrate.

brand doesn't matter, but one that doesn't have claims or additives would be best.

take 5 - 10g a day and drink like 2-3L of water.

Don't expect a pump or 5kg weight gain and don't expect anything to happen in 2 weeks.

Research what creatine is, where it comes from, what it is supposed to do.

You don't need it as a supplement.

At 70kg, what you need is steak, chicken, fish, eggs, rice, pasta, greens, and compound lifts and most importantly PATIENCE - 12 months of it at least.

Don't count calories

Don't get on a scale

Don't buy supplements other than maybe a protien powder that you put 2 scoops in to a shaker, take with you to the gym, and once you've finished training, add water and drink it on your way home to a steak.

try to lift more than the last day each time.. if you get stuck on a weight for a couple of weeks, force more food in.

[Dani Boi]

Not counting calories is a bit stupid, well IMO anyway. If you don't count calories you will either a) get fat or b) not put on weight. Find your maintenance and add 5% extra each week until you gain. If you don't want a lot of fat then ~200g a week if you don't care ~500g a week. Over eating does NOT make you stronger.

[GTR_JOEY]

Double quarter pounders every meal ,

Seriously if your gonna eat big you still gotta eat the right stuff, otherwise you get fat and will dislike what you ve become...a big fatty! Haha

As stated above, meats such as beef, chicken, the sphincter of the universe etc eggs, fruits and vegetables can't go wrong

[TTT]

who said anything about over eating?

If he is unable to continue with progress, then he is not recovering or is over worked (doubtful)

if he is getting enough sleep, then the only thing preventing his recovery is nutrition.

at 70kg and on a program focused on compound lifts, unless he is 5'1", he won't get fat by eating more.

Lifting makes you stronger

Eating makes you bigger

If you don't do the right amount of each, you'll acheive neither of them

[Dani Boi]

Yeah you're right, but you mentioned not to count calories. If you don't count them then it's easy to overeat (gain lean mass but end up with excess fat) or undereat (not gaining). I dunno I guess it comes to personal goals really, I just assume most people want to gain lean mass with minimal fat gain and not have to go on a pointless cutting phase.

Edited May 3, 2012 by Dani Boi

[TTT]

well here's the problem.

he is around 6' tall.

he is 22 years old.

and when he started his training journal (sept 11, 2011) he was 66kg.

Fast forward 230 days and he is 70-71kg

He doesn't need to count calories.

He doesn't need creatine

He needs to eat more food than he has been.

Fact is I doubt he has been eating consistantly.

[Dani Boi]

Ahhh yep, didn't see that log. You would have be a pretty low bf% to be 70kg at 6'1 so yeah I agree with you 100%.