Gym And Supplement Discussion

[dezz]

Never seen anyone use them but there's some big boys in there, seen a pro BB'er squatting ~300kg deep for reps, another guy regularly benching 180kg+ etc so wouldn't be surprised if they've used them

Seen vids of Ronnie benching 100+kg db's for reps, range of motion looks pretty small but I think that's just coz of the sheer size of him

[God_speed]

All this talk reminds me of this classic Priest video

Who would want Lee as a spotter??

[Birds]

Can use big dumbells for deadlifts.

What did you jew ?

Posted a picture of a girl with a horse tail buttplug, in the wasteland, with no nudity showing at all (covered by the tail). Apparently this counts as porn (most people I've shown it to have agreed it was soft compared to regular wasteland fare) and is worthy of a no warning ban...

[Manuel Kasko]

Are your strength gains increasing? I wouldn't worry if they are.

It's amazing how much body fat you actually have. unless your aim is to 'look' big dont put on false size.

I rate power to weight ratios. Again, it's whatever goal you're after, look good in a shirt, or look good naked.

This. Let the strength gains put on the kg. People get too caught up in weight figures when trying to get big, which are meaningless without BF% to back them up. It kind of mystifies me when someone says they would like to weigh xxxkg or set weight goals without knowing what they'll look like at that weight.

Also big on power to weight ratios. Putting on fat is only going to reduce this! I love being light at 79kg and benching the same (and sometimes more) than my 100kg friends.

Thanks guys!

Strength gains is increasing for sure.

I checked out my previous program and I am lifting heavier while also keeping up the same reps (sometimes even more)

Guess I will just keep going the way I have been and see where I am over the next few months

[-FIGJAM-]

dunno if i agree on the costings of the DB's. Friend of mine can get up to 40kg DBs in increments on 2.5kg for $2500.00. That price is from a wholesaler, he has a girlfriend working for the company.

I do however agree to appealing to the masses.

[NickR33]

agree they just don't get used in a commercial gym... the 45s are the heaviest in my gym and the knurling on them is super fresh and grippy... nobody ever uses them!

I watched a young bloke get PINNED under a couple of 25s trying to bench press them the other day... watching him and his mate try and get them off his chest without him falling off the bench was classic... they then proceeded to do barbell bench press with too much weight and the spotter didn't let go of the bar at all during the entire set... sometimes you just have to stare in amazement

[25GTT]

Figjam, truth be known I can get some as cheap as your friend. However I would run into the same problems as buying say a grade 2 r32 gtst for an extremely cheap price from a jap auction, case being ....... You generally wouldn't (in a commercial environment)

Picture 50kilo dumbells sheathing whilst they are above your chest on your tenth rep and the Db plates fall off on your chest or even face.

Buying cheap crappy dumbells or barbells in a commercial environment really shows a lack of duty of care from the owner. Fortunately most commercial gyms I go to the quality of dumbells are good.

Edited September 25, 2012 by 25GTT

[vspecIInur]

I'm up at 65kg DB presses now from 60kg. Still need to push heavier for my weight and height.

As what's mentioned above, always be cautious of the quality. Quality of dumbells I've used are preeminent

[Birds]

Old gym I used to go to had dumbells with big round balls on the ends instead of plates. The whole dumbell was one piece. Looked like they were from the 70s (probably were). No chance of them falling off on your face!

Saw two guys *attempting* to bicep curl the same bar yesterday, standing opposite each other

So many jokers...

[God_speed]

I'm up at 65kg DB presses now from 60kg. Still need to push heavier for my weight and height.

As what's mentioned above, always be cautious of the quality. Quality of dumbells I've used are preeminent

Height, weight Nathan?

[-FIGJAM-]

fair point 25GTT and I accept that you get what you pay for.

but most of these gyms that are opening up around the place arent buying quality equipment, they buy stuff on the cheaper end of the scale. This is the case with gyms like Planet Fitness and the budget gyms where they dont have many trainers to help keep costs low. at least this is the case in my area.

[TM7GTR]

I hope they have good lawyers ^

[Dani Boi]

Anyone have any tips for building calves?

[Mitcho_7]

Would your range get reduced a fair bit benching 60kg dumbells ? They'd hit your chest halfway through the eccentric phase wouldn't they?

[25GTT]

From what i recall Good Life, Fitness First, Virgin and Next Generation use either ABC or Hammerstrength as mentioned, the ABC dumbells are then rebranded to show "fitness first" for example on the endplate. Both of these brands are nice, personally though I prefer the Hammerstrength. There are other American and European brands that I have seen come through time to time but nothing that has really caught my eye and at the price of these two.

Based on TM7's comment that is the major thought when going through the gym manager/owners mind when purchasing the dumbells.

I tend to go with the Hammerstrength range as previously mentioned. Why? Because the actual dumbells are not individual plates on metal pole so to speak. Instead it is a large mould with a lovely black rubber finish. Long story short, the more smaller pieces the more chance they start to become lose and you have to organise your gym instructors to tighten and retighten them before they fall off. You can use locktite as much as you want, but when someone drops a 40 kilo from chest high, the loctite has no chance.

My recommendation to most gym managers is to pay the extra and get the hammerstrength.

Unfortunately though as you mention not all large gyms though get the good stuff, so lets pray they have a good legal team should something go wrong.

[Birds]

Anyone have any tips for building calves?

Become a truck driver

I used to do one legged calf raises between sets of other exercises, met with some success...calves were certainly sore by the end of it.

Alternatively you can do weighted calf raises on a machine or holding dumbells. I find the machines give me microtears in the arch because I always go too low.

[Dani Boi]

I got a HD clutch does that count lawl.

Currently I'm doing calf raises with barbell on my back for 4 sets supersetted with bodyweight for each set 2x a week, 12-15 reps. Not really seeing too much size going on them though Maybe because I'm still slim

[Birds]

They are tough muscles to build up! Running up hills is another good way about it...

[NickR33]

try explosive/plyometric stuff for your calves... weighted jumps, hops, sled pushing etc

[TTT]

Anyone have any tips for building calves?

Travel back in time, and find a way to be an egg in another ovary to your mums and also find a way for another person than your dad to exploded in there.