Gym And Supplement Discussion

[SRS13]

So that was in 1.5 months ?

[SRS13]

Re the small weights, I always wondered why we never had many at our gym....

So asked one of the PT's and he said the smaller weights were being stolen and hence why at one point there were not many 1.25, 2.5 and even 5kg plates around!!! Guys would put them in their pockets, jackets, bags whatever so they could use them at home...

Edited November 20, 2012 by SRS13

[Trozzle]

So that was in 1.5 months ?

Like I said above, first pic isn't ACTUALLY 1.5 months before second - but I didn't look any different particularly from a body fat perspective. Would be better if first pic was taken from the same angle as second, as I did have a chest - it just wasn't as defined. I'll try to find a better picture.

[Trozzle]

This picture was taken at exactly the same time as the "before" pic above. Shows different angle, which is both complimenting and unflattering lol

[NickR33]

lats, traps, forearms... next winter, start eating! if you make the same progress on those weaker areas as you did the rest you will look jacked... and fitness bunnies in yoga pants will throw their panties at you

SRS13: are you fckn serious!? how much of a degenerate scumbag do you have to be to steal weights from the gym... man I would be pissed if I ever caught someone doing that... I get emotional enough when people don't put the plates back in the correct place

[SRS13]

Lol yep that what's he said! I'd be lucky to find any 1.25kg plates at all. Absolute tight ass thieving scumbags.

Mate I'm the same when it comes to people leaving weights around. Shits me to tears, especially when I almost trip over them!! In between sets I walk around and put stuff back in their place - I see it as an extra workout and cant stand the mess!!!

[darksky34]

troy: mind sending me some of your cutting diet guidelines?

nick: noob question, for example in the squatting cage, is leaving on 1 x 20kg per side (and removing any extras i had) considered as not putting plates back? Or should I always try and remove all weights from the bar?

[SRS13]

Troy: I see what you mean. Its still a big change in 1.5 months mate - well done.

[TM7GTR]

troy: mind sending me some of your cutting diet guidelines?

nick: noob question, for example in the squatting cage, is leaving on 1 x 20kg per side (and removing any extras i had) considered as not putting plates back? Or should I always try and remove all weights from the bar?

Lol come on man! You're just making yourself sound worse and worse. Of course you should unload the ENTIRE bar. If you put the damn weights on there, put the damn weights back. The next person to use it may not be able to lift those 20's off very easily.

[NickR33]

nick: noob question, for example in the squatting cage, is leaving on 1 x 20kg per side (and removing any extras i had) considered as not putting plates back? Or should I always try and remove all weights from the bar?

Yeah you really should strip the entire bar... if guys are using the rack before me I will tell them to leave the 20's on as that's what I warm up with however many people like to warm up with just a bar... also your assuming they're squatting... if they're overhead pressing 60kg is a hell of a warm up weight!

your in the gym to lift weight... so lift it and put it back!

another pet hate... please do not go to the dumbbell rack, pick up a set of dumbbells and take half a step back to commence your set... now anybody who wants weights from that area has to wait for you to finish... or risk pushing past you mid-set, which is fckn rude... (this probably only applies to small gyms)

[Trozzle]

lats, traps, forearms... next winter, start eating! if you make the same progress on those weaker areas as you did the rest you will look jacked... and fitness bunnies in yoga pants will throw their panties at you

Oh I will be. Once summer is over, diet is going to relax plenty and I'll start aiming for serious gains. Wouldn't mind reaching 200kg 1RM deadlift by mid year.

troy: mind sending me some of your cutting diet guidelines?

You don't want to follow my method lol. Considering the recent shitstorm my diet has created over the last few pages...it's not a recommended route plus you'll go batshit crazy eating nothing but egg whites w/ short cut bacon, oats, coffee with skim milk and no sugar, plain chicken breast with brown rice and/or steamed veggies, and the very occasional steak. Actually there, that pretty much covers my diet for the month and a half lol

Troy: I see what you mean. Its still a big change in 1.5 months mate - well done.

Cheers

[darksky34]

Lol come on man! You're just making yourself sound worse and worse. Of course you should unload the ENTIRE bar. If you put the damn weights on there, put the damn weights back. The next person to use it may not be able to lift those 20's off very easily.

i left out 'if the 20kg were on it already'...but hey yeah everyone knows i'm a noob to the gym and i'm learning as i go! tis fine.

nick: cool thanks I shall endeavour to clear the bar.

troy: cool that's all i kind of needed, an idea of the foods you ate! sounds kind of like mine but with a much much more restricted variety.

[Trozzle]

cool that's all i kind of needed, an idea of the foods you ate! sounds kind of like mine but with a much much more restricted variety.

Quite literally 99% of my 'cutting' period I consumed nothing other than what I listed, except for water and WPI. This is why I wouldn't recommend it, I dare say it wasn't healthy as I was likely lacking vitamins and minerals, plus it was hard to stick to mentally. If you can do something similar (though with more vegetables perhaps, or at least a shitty multivitamin) and stick to it while continuing to focus on heavy compound lifts and not dropping your weights, then you'll see great results as I did. But like I said, I wouldn't recommend it.

EDIT: OH WAIT, I had the occasional snack of a couple of rye biscuits with organic peanut butter. This helped keep my sanity even if peanut butter doesn't sit well in my stomach.

[darksky34]

hahahha damn yeah man, I can tell why you're not recommending me follow you, and trust me I won't I LOVE food so even with my diet now, i try to get creative and put a little more flavours in even if it's just a plain old piece of chicken breast.

[Dani Boi]

Eat15-20% less than maintenance calories

Consume 1-1.5g per lb of bodyweight in protein, absolute minimum 0.3g healthy fats per lb and fill the rest up wirth carbs.

Count calories

Lift heavy, dont change routine

Do cardio if you need to burn more calories, you dont need to do cardio to cut.

Eat healthy but dont be afraid to eat junk every now and then, moderation

Eat your greens.

[NickR33]

nothing but egg whites w/ short cut bacon, oats, coffee with skim milk and no sugar, plain chicken breast with brown rice and/or steamed veggies, and the very occasional steak.

there really isn't anything wrong with this diet... maybe a bit short on the green veggies and the odd banana would be good... some nuts for snacks... fish and/or fish oil too... apart from it being bland and repetitive it's pretty spot on for body recomp... if most people ate like this adult onset diabetes would disappear along with many other modern health issues

if I had the discipline to eat like that I might be able to see my abs:( ... can you come live at my place for a few months!?

good on you for sticking to it

deadlifting 200kg is just practice... spend a few months working up to it... some more size in your back will help... and nice big forearms to hold onto the bar

I fckn love peanut butter... I've got the all natural frsh stuff at the moment... doesn't taste as good as the supermarket version but has nowhere near the same salt/sugar content

[Trozzle]

there really isn't anything wrong with this diet... maybe a bit short on the green veggies and the odd banana would be good... some nuts for snacks... fish and/or fish oil too... apart from it being bland and repetitive it's pretty spot on for body recomp... if most people ate like this adult onset diabetes would disappear along with many other modern health issues

if I had the discipline to eat like that I might be able to see my abs:( ... can you come live at my place for a few months!?

good on you for sticking to it

deadlifting 200kg is just practice... spend a few months working up to it... some more size in your back will help... and nice big forearms to hold onto the bar

I fckn love peanut butter... I've got the all natural frsh stuff at the moment... doesn't taste as good as the supermarket version but has nowhere near the same salt/sugar content

Yeah my grip is getting there, might invest in some chalk though! Can pull 162.5kg with no grip issues, but when I tried 170kg (different day) the bar kept slipping out when I got it above my knees

I got the Macro wholefoods shit from Woollies, it's got no additives at all. 100% peanuts. No idea how you get 100% peanuts into that consistency, but yeah apparently no added salt or sugar. Tastes great.

[NickR33]

standard garbage gym bars are hard to hold onto with no chalk... especially if the knurling is worn down... I sometimes wrap a towel around the bar

somewhere many pages back in this thread I posted that I was having trouble holding onto 140kg... so just practice and lots of rowing assistance work

[jangles]

Eat15-20% less than maintenance calories

Consume 1-1.5g per lb of bodyweight in protein, absolute minimum 0.3g healthy fats per lb and fill the rest up wirth carbs.

Count calories

Lift heavy, dont change routine

Do cardio if you need to burn more calories, you dont need to do cardio to cut.

Eat healthy but dont be afraid to eat junk every now and then, moderation

Eat your greens.

This. If you know you're going out with friends for dinner etc. just eat cleaner during the day to accommodate.

Id hate to mention the word again, but if you have your macros sorted it's what allows you to eat pretty normal and still be in a deficit.

If you eat 400g protein (a lot)for example but only 200g carbs for the day, you can basically turn it around and eat up to 400g carbs and only 200g protein and it's still the same amount of total calories.

Edit: I'm not talking about how the body processes different fuel sources and the science, soley as a number in relation to a calorie total.

Edited November 20, 2012 by jangles

[Birds]

Squats, deadlifts and basketball...these are a few of my favourite things...

Albeit not all three consecutively...world of pain.