Gym And Supplement Discussion

[TTT]

Just buy some speed.

[-FIGJAM-]

considered doing a workout on speed or coke to see how i would go. Would need it to be filmed as well

good preworkout that I have tried was Mesomorph

[No Crust Racing]

Edited May 13, 2013 by ActionDan

[-FIGJAM-]

that was awesome

[Trozzle]

I'd be very wary about training on a REAL stim like speed or cocaine. Could definitely push too far without realising it and end up passing out haha

Example: while under the influence of coke (when in Rome....or Berlin as it were), I managed to beat the elevator in the hostel up 7 floors while I took the stairs. That kind of "energy" is dangerous haha

[t5iv]

  On 13/05/2013 at 4:21 AM, Trozzle said:

Yeah, what Tolga said. What you're looking for should only be used on the odd occasion you're run down from lack of sleep or just a busy day. Long term energy problem are either going to be chronic fatigue/consistent sleep loss, or just a shitty diet. Any other possible causes will definitely not be fixed by an energy drink as they're either illness related or hormonal.

Just eat more.

The more I eat the more lethargic I get.

  On 13/05/2013 at 4:24 AM, Birds said:

Just a pre-workout of some sort...pretty much full of caffeine and x chemicals, commonly used by people deficient in food and sleep.

This sounds about right.

Essentially, just looking for a jump start to get me back into rhythm and then should be off the stuff. Seriously feels like my metabolism is working at 1 10th and it's pissing me right off!

Will look into Mesomorph. Not looking for a long term supply, just a quick boost for a week or two. Anything else?

[Trozzle]

  On 13/05/2013 at 5:34 AM, t5iv said:

The more I eat the more lethargic I get.

This sounds about right.

Essentially, just looking for a jump start to get me back into rhythm and then should be off the stuff. Seriously feels like my metabolism is working at 1 10th and it's pissing me right off!

Will look into Mesomorph. Not looking for a long term supply, just a quick boost for a week or two. Anything else?

Then you're eating the wrong food for the occasion. I know exactly what you mean here - there's a lot of things I can eat that will make me want to do nothing but sit and vegetate haha. Just gotta eat the right foods at the right time so they don't interfere with your training. Unfortunately depending on your digestive system etc, this can be kinda difficult to do...

[No Crust Racing]

Spur of the moment vid. Sorry if you can't see everything.

Is this semi ok for the lowering phase? This time I'm trying to bend at the hips first and clear knees before bending knees.

Bar is touching thighs and shins up and down. This felt bit better back wise.

http://youtu.be/CHhaB2WOTcA

[jangles]

  On 13/05/2013 at 2:49 AM, t5iv said:

I prefer to train in the mornings. When I've been dedicated to going to the gym, it's been at 5-6am (the primary reason I changed to Jetts from Fitness First). Partially has to do with having a dad who's ex-military... also has to do with me liking regularity in my regime. Work can finish anywhere from 5-midnight so makes it tougher to stick to a schedule.

With that said, one of the guys that used to work with us had this supplement that was also an energy lifter. He wouldn't drink coffee at work in the mornings because this stuff had him going.

Anyone know what I'm talking about? Have been feeling my energy levels steadily depleting over the last 12 months and could do with a boost to get me back into my routine. If it helps, the stuff he was using was in a white bottle, with black label and red writing.... as generic as that is..

Any help would be appreciated!

any pretrainer should give you that sort of lift/energy whatever it is.

Also, 'fat burners' give energy just the same as caffeine does etc. not so much a pre workout, but an energy drink. 2shredded, Amphetalean, Body Effects, they might even 'burn some fat' but mainly boost energy and focus for daily activities not gym related.

Edited May 13, 2013 by jangles

[t5iv]

Thanks for the advice guys. Shall grab some mesomorph and see how we go. Just need to get out of this rut! It's killing me everywhere.

[TM7GTR]

  On 13/05/2013 at 5:33 AM, Trozzle said:

I'd be very wary about training on a REAL stim like speed or cocaine. Could definitely push too far without realising it and end up passing out haha

Example: while under the influence of coke (when in Rome....or Berlin as it were), I managed to beat the elevator in the hostel up 7 floors while I took the stairs. That kind of "energy" is dangerous haha

F*cking LOL

[TM7GTR]

P.S. You can't buy the original Mesomorph anymore. It contained a substance much like speed. 1-3 dimeth anyone?

[No Crust Racing]

No comments on DL?

Also, had a play with the safety bar heights last night for bench, one one setting it doesn't allow me to touch my chest, on the next setting down, I'm not sure Id be able to get out from under it if the bar was on it, I'm assuming that would be enough to stop be dying at least but maybe not without a cracked rib or 5.

[Trozzle]

  On 13/05/2013 at 11:02 AM, TM7GTR said:

F*cking LOL

f**king great night that was LOL. I can see how cocaine is so addictive though, that kind of rush is just something else. I'd do it again, but no point going out of my way for it - not in this country at least.

[bozodos]

  On 13/05/2013 at 11:03 AM, TM7GTR said:

P.S. You can't buy the original Mesomorph anymore. It contained a substance much like speed. 1-3 dimeth anyone?

You can still get DMAA based stuff imported in - I got some Oxy Elite Pro, works quite well at stopping me from habitually eating. Taking two in one day was a bad idea though (made me really anxious lol)

[Trozzle]

  On 13/05/2013 at 10:54 PM, bozodos said:

You can still get DMAA based stuff imported in - I got some Oxy Elite Pro, works quite well at stopping me from habitually eating. Taking two in one day was a bad idea though (made me really anxious lol)

I don't believe it's supposed to be allowed through, I think you're just lucky

I just finished off my DMAA caps the other day. Can't say I really noticed much of a benefit I can specifically attribute to the DMAA, so yeah who knows. It's just supposed to help you focus (hence why Uni/college students hammer it for their studies), so I suppose if you aren't struggling mentally with something you won't really notice much of a difference. Towards the end of the bottle, I was taking 75mg (3 caps) - supps that used to contain it like 1MR etc only had 25mg/serving, so if there was a specific effect from the stuff I'd like to think I'd be noticing it at 3 times that dosage.

I can absolutely 100% say for certain though that I got significantly more benefit from eating myself stupid the night before and up until 3+ hours prior to training (since I do poorly when I have anything in my stomach). As Birds etc always insist (and nobody disagrees) food and sleep are a much better solution than stims. Unfortunately gorging yourself on tasty shite isn't really much of an option during calorie deficit periods (as I'm on now for the next 4 weeks), so in these situations I definitely understand repeated use - even if only for appetite suppression haha

[Birds]

  On 13/05/2013 at 10:14 PM, ActionDan said:

No comments on DL?

Also, had a play with the safety bar heights last night for bench, one one setting it doesn't allow me to touch my chest, on the next setting down, I'm not sure Id be able to get out from under it if the bar was on it, I'm assuming that would be enough to stop be dying at least but maybe not without a cracked rib or 5.

Raise the bench with some wood/sheet metal or something and use the higher setting.

You won't crack a rib with 100kg; maybe slight bruising.

[No Crust Racing]

Fair enough, I've never dumped a bar benching, only failed out towards the top, but with the pins set where they are, I think I'll be right as I don't have to go as far in an emergency.

[Trozzle]

I've had no issues with 90kg on my chest. Just lower it as best you can onto wherever you can, then roll it onto your belly. Once it's resting there you've got plenty of time to work out how to get out from under it

[No Crust Racing]

Yeah all good, not sure why it suddenly matters to me now, gotten out from under 100kg before so if the moment comes again I'm sure I'll manage.

Also, I like having a cage, it's sweet.