Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

So was I, I might still have a face pic of you somewhere here from that Hungry Hungry Trozzles photoshop lol

[bozodos]

ahh that's the kind of explanation i was looking for, thanks Trozzle! I also agree - I'm not trying to lose a shitload of weight fast and look like a skinnyfat POS!

[Trozzle]

So was I, I might still have a face pic of you somewhere here from that Hungry Hungry Trozzles photoshop lol

That was the best thing ever. Loved it.

Here, do as you please...

[No Crust Racing]

Haha, I'll save that for another time, it's gotta be a spontaneous thing for maximum effect.

Is that f**king flat cap?! The peak of that hat looks frighteningly straight...

[Birds]

You're a lot more supportive of the Markos method - I also thought you were an IIFYM devotee!

You guys have inspired me to squat heavier today rather than just cruising on 120 too.

I've actually always been a proponent of Markos' methods...you can't watch his vids and not think that he and the guys down there know what they are doing. I have even recommended his gym to people and read a fair few of his newsletters. Where we have crossed swords on here, is in methods of advice giving...or my choice of goals and my unconventional training methods. However, I think Markos has come to accept what I do, even if he doesn't agree with it. On the most recent topic of discussion we've found common ground, as it's basic principles of strength training and muscle building that everyone should understand and you can't argue about. Markos was also pretty friendly in his delivery lol, so maybe it's Markos who has changed his tune

*remembers the response to your post about crossfit*

...nope!

[Trozzle]

Haha, I'll save that for another time, it's gotta be a spontaneous thing for maximum effect.

Is that f**king flat cap?! The peak of that hat looks frighteningly straight...

It is, but doesn't look anything like what you usually see with flat brim hats. I f**king HATE the (stereo)typical flat-brim cap wearing f**kwit. Way too many of them around here given all the easily accessible dirt bike trails near my place.

[No Crust Racing]

I f**king knew it!

SWAT came into my house, disrespected my whole family because somebody narc'd me out! And you know what? IT WAS YOU!

Can't trust those flat cappers...

Next you'll be telling me you own a drift car and/or wear a lot of Tap Out merch...

[Dani Boi]

That article say's don't eat rice, wtf.

[-FIGJAM-]

quality article by Markos, makes me want to read his bulk thread.

[bozodos]

I should add, when my gymbros compared the Markos method to Crossfit, it was not meant to be derisive, they were referring to the 'proper' type of Crossfit where they concentrate on strength training, not the timewasting one.

I'd like to do the PTC method, but it would mean training by myself, so I'll keep it in mind for when if eventually I have to. I'll try eating a bit more though to keep the calories up.

[markos]

The question on knee wraps was a good one.

For a regular size guy, around 180kg before adding wraps.

Jesse added them at around 165kg

The girls all squat 100kg+ without wraps

During programming for a meet we add them in week 5, so we only use wraps for 5 weeks before meets. If no meet coming up, no wraps

We are pretty f**king far from being Crossfit

Another story

I had a guy ring me from Crossfit, said his wife won some regionals but needed to get her squat up. I invited them down, they live about 35 minutes away.

Anyway she tells me she is the strongest girl at her Crossfit gym, she needs to train somewhere to get stronger. I ask her how much she squats, 85kg she weighed 70kg

A few other clients come in so I leave them to look around. When I come back there standing in front of our Records Board. They ask me if Nina and Sussy were women. I laughed. She asked if they really squatted 125kg at under 60kg bodyweight. I said were powerlifters, thats what we do, we get stronger. She was stunned. Then she asked about the deadlift numbers, so I pointed out we have around 10 girls that have deadlifted over 140kg. They went prestty quiet. The guy pipes up and said what about the men. I dont think he was believing the numbers on the wall.

He said he is strongest in his "box" with 160kg at around 85kg. I pointed out Martin pulls 290kg at 82kg, and our 14yo pulls 200kg. They both agreed this was where they had to train, see you tomorrow

Never showed up.

We are the opposite of Crossfit

If theres any questions I missed, sorry, just ask again

[-FIGJAM-]

where do u live Boz?

[bozodos]

Mildura FIGJAM.

Yeah I agree Markos, I've looked into Crossfit (in the interests of being open minded), and did not like what I saw, except from those who were already strong and bored of doing regular weights training, not a fan.

[No Crust Racing]

I'm the strongest in all lifts at my gym, just saying...

That is until Kate starts exercising again...

[bozodos]

One more question Markos, is there an advantage to squatting without a pad?

[Trozzle]

That article say's don't eat rice, wtf.

Think he means white rice more specifically....and as Markos has pointed out previously, his methods aren't "good enough" - he believes they are the best. By this I mean sure you can keep eating white rice and bread and still cut fat, but if you got rid of those things you'd get even better results. This is also my mentality - f**k the middle ground, go all out.

[markos]

That newsletter was for pure recomposition. When I wrote it we hadnt entered PL yet, all my clients were novices trying to look better. Rice will not help you get lean.

Sorry, are you serious about the pad, I cant tell if people are simply being funny and pushing my buttons on the net or not

[bozodos]

no I'm being totally serious about the pad, genuinely curious

[Birds]

So sad that 120kg seems like a lot to me I've only just made a triple figures last night.

120 is a lot! By 60kg girl standards

No, you should be happy...you're doing very well actually, all things considered. But 200kg should seem like a heavy squat to you and 120kg should seem like buggerall, even if you can't squat 120kg yet. If you respect 120kg too much, you will fear it. It will seem a big number in your head, and come the time you lift it, that fear will affect your performance.

A few years ago you couldn't tell me that I would be lifting 180kg off the ground. That to me was a big number. But the only reason I can, now, is because I've watched guys my weight lifting 260kg...which makes anything less than it seem irrelevantly light. Unfortunately this mentality also detracts from the satisfaction of lifting what you formerly considered a heavy weight, but you can end up a much stronger person for it.

The exercises we hate most often tend to be the ones we feel we underperform in. This creates a vicious cycle, because we fear dropping in performance or being able to lift more and that's exactly what happens. We can even go backwards if we let it get to us too much. Need to address the fear and remember how big a part the mind plays in what the body can do.

[L33SH]

Think he means white rice more specifically....and as Markos has pointed out previously, his methods aren't "good enough" - he believes they are the best. By this I mean sure you can keep eating white rice and bread and still cut fat, but if you got rid of those things you'd get even better results. This is also my mentality - f**k the middle ground, go all out.

So now you shouldn't eat rice and bread? Wtf