Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

definatley sounds like a mental thing Dan.

Maybe not getting enough rest in between either sets or workout days as well

Rest between sets is one thing I'd considered, is it better to take a longer break before that last set so you can do more continuous reps or take the same break, do less continuous reps then have to do more sets.

[-FIGJAM-]

I dont think there is a magic answer there.

I have heard of people taking excess of 5 minutes rest between sets. I guess it really matters on when you think and feel ready to lift.

Markos could probably answer that better.

[Trozzle]

I dont think there is a magic answer there.

I have heard of people taking excess of 5 minutes rest between sets. I guess it really matters on when you think and feel ready to lift.

Markos could probably answer that better.

How am I supposed to send selfies to all da bishes in less than 5 minutes? That's crazy talk mang.

[markos]

Markos what's your opinion on madcows 5x5?

What the f**k is a mad cow?

Bill Starr started 5 x 5. He chose that magic rep/set scheme because he designed the program for high school kids, he figured the P.E teachers were too dumb to remember anything more elaborate. He also designed it with incline press and not bench, but most schools didnt have one so he switched to flat bench.

Now that you know the origin, what do you think of it?

[markos]

I dont think there is a magic answer there.

I have heard of people taking excess of 5 minutes rest between sets. I guess it really matters on when you think and feel ready to lift.

Markos could probably answer that better.

Jack sometimes takes 20 minutes between sets. It depends on the movement, the stage of the program and the weight used.

For a regular gym program 90 seconds is heaps

[jangles]

fish oil is win! 2 - 6 tablets a day helps with the inflamation of joints etc i find and so do a lot of people that use it....tho as you say not much conclusive testing apart from they "apparently" cause cancers etc

2-6 tablets? That's nice and definitive.

[Dani Boi]

What the f**k is a mad cow?

Bill Starr started 5 x 5. He chose that magic rep/set scheme because he designed the program for high school kids, he figured the P.E teachers were too dumb to remember anything more elaborate. He also designed it with incline press and not bench, but most schools didnt have one so he switched to flat bench.

Now that you know the origin, what do you think of it?

Yes Bill Starr, I'm running the modified version madcow 5x5 http://stronglifts.com/madcow/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

Edited August 28, 2013 by Dani Boi

[markos]

So what do you think of it Dan?

The purpose of a program is to make you stronger. How long have you been doing it? How much stronger are you? Nothing else matters, nor does it matter what anyone thinks.

For a lifter that can go the distance, I use

1. Beginners program

2. 5 x 5

3. PPP

4. PTC Method

[Dani Boi]

I've found the program really good so far. I was just asking because on the previous page you said that you prefer working sets for all reps as opposed to ramping weights that's all.

My numbers still fall into your beginner category but I switched to 5x5 because I wasn't making progress on Starting Strength anymore. So on 5x5, squat 105x5 - 130x5, DL 125x5-150x5, Bench 72.5x5-85x5 in 3 months. Probably not up to PTC standards but tbh I'm quite happy with what I've achieved so far. Just going to work up to 140/100/180 and see what I do from there.

[No Crust Racing]

It's interesting/weird.

using bench as an example, I've been going 93, 109, 116 for 8, 8, and then about 4 reps.

Tonight, I did a bit over 90 for 8 reps then moved straight onto 116.

Got 7 reps, on the first go, then failed out after 4 next set (3rd set) then did another 3 after that just to get th volume up.

So despite doing more in the second set (weight but less volume as I didn't make the 8) I managed the same 4 reps in that 3rd set :\

Dunno if that's good or bad?

[rev210]

Jack sometimes takes 20 minutes between sets. It depends on the movement, the stage of the program and the weight used.

For a regular gym program 90 seconds is heaps

Sounds about right. Jack's intensity and next set requirement makes sense for 20 min rest, depending on what he migh be doing.

Blood pressure on proper heavy lifts goes through the roof.

Regular gym goer is not stressing the body anywhere near that level for lifts.

[-FIGJAM-]

you've never seen the faces I pull when lifting......

[UNR33L]

Ate maccas today for the first time in ages, tasted so bad lol

Can someone explain to me the theory behind 5x5 training? is it just 5 sets of 5 reps for each exercise to basically gain strength? Or do you up it a certain amount every month or something?? Sure it's been covered but I don't come here much.

Edited August 29, 2013 by UNR33L

[-FIGJAM-]

5 sets of 5 exercises. Increase the weight by 1.25-2.5kg increments every session on every lift.

Primary goal is getting stronger.

That is the lazy explanation.

[Birds]

Why do gym regulars insist on coming up to you at the gym to talk about how they haven't been in for a week because they've had the flu / still feel crappy, then stand there for 20 minutes talking really close near you instead of doing exercise? Fu off you germ!

[rev210]

5 sets of 5 exercises. Increase the weight by 1.25-2.5kg increments every session on every lift.

Primary goal is getting stronger.

That is the lazy explanation.

Lazy is what depending on the program is.. I wouldnt say its any ingredient for great success.

Beginners program only

Edited August 29, 2013 by rev210

[-FIGJAM-]

I meant lazy as in not going into all the ins and outs of the routine.

It can be difficult if you push yourself. I did it for a few months, I saw some strength gains but felt it wasn't pushing me enough.

[bozodos]

Lazy is what depending on the program is.. I wouldnt say its any ingredient for great success.

Beginners program only

why's that rev?

[markos]

Because it was designed for high school kids, who by any definition, are beginners

[rev210]

and lazy...