Gym And Supplement Discussion

[10 4]

5.3k cals today
f**k
back to being good tomorrow.

[Birds]

Mate just add a few sets to your workout or do some HIIT cardio. People will tell you that you can't out train a bad diet, but it's not a bad diet if the calorie outtake is there too. I eat a loaf of bread a day and still have abs

[10 4]

I can't
I'm really lazy

[No Crust Racing]

What Birds said.

I'd rather exercise more instead of eating less.

[vspecIInur]

  On 04/12/2013 at 4:54 AM, Birds said:

Got any before and after pics mate?

hardly have any pics. But If you like I can post of one currently now and maybe once I finish my cycle or 12-16 weeks later?

[vspecIInur]

It's possible to burn more then what you eat. Lots of anaerobic exercise i.e. HIIT and weight training which burn a f**k load of calories and afterwards as well.

I'm a fan of devouring bread with pb, rice and enormous amounts of meat, chicken and pork.

[L33SH]

  On 04/12/2013 at 11:07 PM, vspecIInur said:

hardly have any pics. But If you like I can post of one currently now and maybe once I finish my cycle or 12-16 weeks later?

[-FIGJAM-]

Leesh is down for the selfies

[Birds]

  On 04/12/2013 at 11:07 PM, vspecIInur said:

hardly have any pics. But If you like I can post of one currently now and maybe once I finish my cycle or 12-16 weeks later?

Sounds good. You generally don't see many of these because so many people doing cycles aren't too open about it or are quite vague.

In fact I've only really seen before and afters of a mate at uni who did a cycle as soon as he joined a gym. Mind you he ended up the same size as me after 8 weeks and I had been going for a couple of years back then lol

[Trozzle]

You can't out train a ~3000 calorie surplus, don't be naive.

[bozodos]

5-6kcals a day is what a competing strongman eats, and most of them are over 6" and builtfat.

[vspecIInur]

  On 05/12/2013 at 1:36 AM, Birds said:

Sounds good. You generally don't see many of these because so many people doing cycles aren't too open about it or are quite vague.

In fact I've only really seen before and afters of a mate at uni who did a cycle as soon as he joined a gym. Mind you he ended up the same size as me after 8 weeks and I had been going for a couple of years back then lol

I admit it because I've broken the natural pathway. No point trying to act like I've achieved my results on protein powder, chicken and broccoli lol. Someone can blow up quite rapidly whilst on something. Scary part is after you stop. Having all the pct possible is the best thing possible. Still can't avoid the inevitable though...Just gotta train even harder!

[PWND]

probably mentioned earlier, but what do you guys use to monitor your intake?

keep a diary? phone app? if so which one?

[Birds]

I think these days you get more respect from those who don't cycle if you're more open about it. Most people don't have a problem with it beyond someone trying to pass themselves off as natty or talking about their routine and forgetting to include their extracurricular activities in it, and will still admire the impressive feats that are a well crafted body or a strong lift. We all know that whether you use or not has nothing to do with your intensity/willpower/effort; only the extent of the results achievable.

[Birds]

  On 05/12/2013 at 4:00 AM, PWND said:

probably mentioned earlier, but what do you guys use to monitor your intake?

keep a diary? phone app? if so which one?

I use these apps called common sense and a pinch test

[PWND]

  On 05/12/2013 at 4:05 AM, Birds said:

I use these apps called common sense and a pinch test

Need to know how many jam doughnuts and bourbons I can have after dinner before I max out my daily intake.

[TTT]

Ignore the retard talking in this vid.... the details of Bostin Loyd and his 1 year steroid adventure is available on the web somewhere..

He publicly listed every single drug he took, the amounts and timing and blah blah blah..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpCFMzmPAc

[blah_blah]

  On 05/12/2013 at 4:08 AM, PWND said:

Need to know how many jam doughnuts and bourbons I can have after dinner before I max out my daily intake.

I use My Fitness Pal

I quite like it

[10 4]

^Same

Also I'm meant to be cutting, not a competing strongman lol.

Currently eating Chilliz. Fail

[Mitcho_7]

  On 05/12/2013 at 4:41 AM, TTT said:

Ignore the retard talking in this vid.... the details of Bostin Loyd and his 1 year steroid adventure is available on the web somewhere..

He publicly listed every single drug he took, the amounts and timing and blah blah blah..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpCFMzmPAc

The gains he got over a year are awesome but he definitely wasnt small to begin with, just carrying a some extra fat.

I havent seen the video where he talks about everything he took, but i daresay he was on cycle year round which is pretty intense and thats probably got a lot to do with why he has managed to keep the gains.