Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Mitcho_7]

Man, its gonna look like a tennis ball on her ankle after that!

[Birds]

Nice work Birds

Thanks mate! How's ya benching going?

[No Crust Racing]

Have not changed anything, still just doing 2x 8reps at a bit over 100 on flat then 2x 10 reps at like 60 with incline which is slowly feeling more stable hence a little more weight on it. That 3x weekly is enough for me at the moment chest wise.

Some fat to lose so have adjusted eating and tempo/breaks accordingly as I'd like to trim up a little, whihc is working.

I do miss the buzz from doing a bit more but my weights set maxed out at 118 and I don't think I ever did more than 6-7 continuous reps at that weight (would have to go back and look) and I can't see much of a difference in my chest visually benching a bit less but more comfortably.

Had my MRI on my back this morning, see what the results say tomorrow, they better show something for the cost...

[L33SH]

Heavy Deadlifting in heels can only end badly

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=267647786724916&set=vb.128255247330838&type=2&theater

Sucked in, what a f**king stupid bitch

[UNR33L]

if you do stupid stuff like that you deserve to be hurt :\

[No Crust Racing]

So by now some of you will have heard about Kevin Ogar.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/crossfit-coach-kevin-ogar-suffers-freak-accident-during-competition/story-fneuzlbd-1226802836305

Here's the video, I know nothing about this lift, what did he do wrong?

Anyone got a better vid? No idea why it won't embed. Aids.

http://youtu.be/jWJapBpKrQA

Edited January 16, 2014 by ActionDan

[bozodos]

it looks like there was some frames cut out of that video, but apparently it was due to there being plates stacked up behind the platform - the barbell bounced back into the way of his back as he was falling.

From what I've seen of the program, doing a 3rm snatch was crazy after the amount of stuff they'd done in the preceding days. Surprisingly the event wasn't halted for this either.

[No Crust Racing]

If anyone has a better video that would be good, seemed weird to me.

[jangles]

120kg bench! New pb! 1.5x body weight! Hooray!

Huge milestone for me, as I could never get past 117.5kg during my pre-injury days. This was done after 100kg x 7, which is, incidentally, another pb (most reps I've done of 100kg).

Now here's the kicker: my last bench session, prior to this, had me benching only 60kg for max reps...just two sets (28, 22 reps). Then I come back tonight and break the 1RM pb. So question is, was the change up in weights/reps responsible for the new pb or was the break/rest from heavy weights beneficial...or both?

Sub maximal training is nothing new. Quite a few people with records only train reps until the big day.

De-loads are seen as beneficial, the CNS likes it.

[blah_blah]

So by now some of you will have heard about Kevin Ogar.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/crossfit-coach-kevin-ogar-suffers-freak-accident-during-competition/story-fneuzlbd-1226802836305

Here's the video, I know nothing about this lift, what did he do wrong?

Anyone got a better vid? No idea why it won't embed. Aids.

http://youtu.be/jWJapBpKrQA

Holy crapola severing his spine....

[Birds]

Sub maximal training is nothing new. Quite a few people with records only train reps until the big day.

De-loads are seen as beneficial, the CNS likes it.

Is this because of the rest from heavy weights, the change up in routine movement, or the potential for a lower weight to damage the muscle further than a heavy weight?

The same thing happened with my deadlifts ages ago. Did a 1.5 x bodyweight deadlift contest, so 120kg for 15 reps at the time, next session I pulled a couple more reps with the usual higher weights (140kg etc.).

Will be remembering this deloading tactic the next time I hit a plateau.

[No Crust Racing]

Sorry to spam two threads, Pasting this here from the infirmary thread so it gets visibility as I'm interested to hear from anyone who's had it or nows of someone with the same problem and if they did or did not go surgery and how they're going now.

Got my MRI back, looks like I've got a protrusion on the disc, is that called a herniated disc or is that something different?

Physio said we can work on "managing" it through core strength and wants me to get stuck in straight away while I decide if I want to go that route longer term or opt for surgery. He said there are some good conservative surgeons he knows in Melbourne who will do a microdisectomy (I think that's what it was called) and cut that 5mm protrusion off and sew me back up.

He said I'm the perfect candidate for it and should see immediate relief as the rest of my back is in good health. He also said he rarely recommends surgery and only suggests it if he thinks it will have a extremely positive outcome.

That said he's happy for me to work on managing it for the moment.

I'm assuming I did this that time I was squatting and something went pop and I was in bad pain, but I got over that eventually with rest and stretching. I realise it's not the disc that causes the pain, but the impingement on the nerve.

I've read a bit that said stop all exercise other than walking and it will heal slowly, but he said protrusions do not heal and that the upper body work I'm doing at the moment, flat and incline, chins and dips, will have no impact on it.

I think I have the prolapse in this image.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Interesting info in this paper - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2915533

Surgical patience showing quicker relief from pain etc in the early stages but that longer term it levels out.

I'll get a referral and see the Neurologist, but I'm leaning towards conservative management rather than having something cut into my back.

I'm also still tossing up whether to get this plate removed.

Edited January 16, 2014 by ActionDan

[No Crust Racing]

Scared you all off it seems with my back talk lol

Random quesiton.

If when I'm looking in the mirror and I'm relaxed and one shoulder sits higher than the other, what does that imply about muscle imbalances?

[Birds]

It implies you are normal!

[No Crust Racing]

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

[jangles]

Is this because of the rest from heavy weights, the change up in routine movement, or the potential for a lower weight to damage the muscle further than a heavy weight?

The same thing happened with my deadlifts ages ago. Did a 1.5 x bodyweight deadlift contest, so 120kg for 15 reps at the time, next session I pulled a couple more reps with the usual higher weights (140kg etc.).

Will be remembering this deloading tactic the next time I hit a plateau.

Sub maximal allows you to build muscle, less prone to injury and stress. Prevents 'over training'

De-load allows the body and CNS to recover from the stress you've put it through building up to a lift, something like a 50% week, then essentially it is recovered and ready to go with the 1rm/PB work.

something like that anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTx5gklftpM

[r31slpr]

Random quesiton.

If when I'm looking in the mirror and I'm relaxed and one shoulder sits higher than the other, what does that imply about muscle imbalances?

I've got the same thing, just assumed it was from injuries haha some people say its normal, some say its from injuries/imbalances.

My physio didn't mention anything about it when I was having my shoulder treated, so it cant be that much of a big deal.

[Birds]

The body is assymmetric in many ways; one of the big issues competing bodybuilders face besides trying to put on the muscle and make it look good. Symmetry is often a judging criteria.

It's quite normal to have a natural imbalance like one shoulder sitting higher than the other. If it's because of a concurrent injury, then that's a different story. But if your technique is symmetrical, with no weaknesses on one side, or chronic injury on one side, I wouldn't worry about it.

My brother is missing a pectoral muscle or something and it causes his shoulder to slump on one side lol

[jangles]

The body is assymmetric in many ways; one of the big issues competing bodybuilders face besides trying to put on the muscle and make it look good. Symmetry is often a judging criteria.

It's quite normal to have a natural imbalance like one shoulder sitting higher than the other. If it's because of a concurrent injury, then that's a different story. But if your technique is symmetrical, with no weaknesses on one side, or chronic injury on one side, I wouldn't worry about it.

My brother is missing a pectoral muscle or something and it causes his shoulder to slump on one side lol

did your brother come out like superman? one arm forward and one back?

my mate did, missing pec. Military is interesting to watch!!

[Birds]

Not sure if the entire insertion is missing, been years since I saw him with no top on and he doesn't really train, so no huge looking imbalance...but I do remember it looking a little strange in certain positions.

Guess that's another testament to my argument that bench press is not first and foremost a chest exercise...people without a pec can still do it, albeit with limitations.